[bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails plust question about plain text e-mails.

He is using AOL8.0 and I don't know whether he has his settings in his web mail options to have it come out black, in Gmail, you have such options.

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"If you go without playing the trumpet for one day, no one knows, two days, only you know, and more than three days without practicing, girl you better look out, because everyone will know!" Today, I find myself constantly saying those words, just to get myself going, to not give up, and it works. Since I learned to play the trumpet at the tender age of 10, I have spent so much passion and much diligence with that instrument that I will not give up on it. Sometimes my instrument puts me into awkward situations where I feel like they won't ever end, but the trumpet gives me a lot of hope with the majestic, crystal-clear sound it brings to my ears.
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Chela Robles
E-Mail: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
MSNWindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: jazzytrumpet

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails plust question about plain text e-mails.


Roger!

Are you using Word to compose messages in your e-mail program, or , is your
font color set to black? I know there is a font color button in Word. I
don't remember seeing one in Outlook Express or Outlook. All that being
said, it doesn't mean that's the problem--just a thought.

Judy!

If you send e-mail in plain text and it contains a link, can the link be
copied or retrieved in the same way as if the message were sent in HTML
format? Goes to show you how very little I know about computers. I'm just
wondering what the major disadvantage is to sending most e-mail in plain
text.

Blessings.

Lynnsky

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:09 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails

Nope, it didn't help. It's still coming through as black font against black
background.

Try Jackie's suggestion, maybe, of changing your email so it goes
 out as plain text?

Judy s.

Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:
AOL 8.0. And by the way, the time period Judy mentioned for this
change in my emails about coincided with the last time I changed the
quote in my signature, so I just now fiddled around with that again. Did
that help?

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion
in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams

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What client are you using? Perhaps my buddy who helped me can help
you?----------------"If you go without playing the trumpet for one
day, no one knows, two days, only you know, and more than three days
without practicing, girl you better look out, because everyone will
know!" Today, I find myself constantly saying those words, just to get
myself going, to not give up, and it works.
Since I learned to play the trumpet at the tender age of 10, I have
spent so much passion and much diligence with that instrument that I
will not give up on it. Sometimes my instrument puts me into awkward
situations where I feel like they won't ever end, but the trumpet
gives me a lot of hope with the majestic, crystal-clear sound it
brings to my ears.----------------Chela
RoblesE-Mail:

cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
MSNWindowsLive Messenger:
cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: jazzytrumpet----- Original Message ----- From:
Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
To:
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:09 PMSubject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:
Funky change in Roger's emailsI was unaware of that. Does anyone know
how I can fix it?"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if
there were no
religion in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams
The
Militant:
http://www.themilitant.com
Pathfinder Press:
http://www.pathfinderpress.com
Granma International:
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Funky change in Roger's emails  Date:12/5/2009 3:53:18 PM Eastern
Standard Time From:cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent from the Internet (Details)table endHey Roger,You've got some
funky html coding that's been going on for two or three days in your
emails coming to the list. It makes the background blackand the font
black, except for your .sig file. So for what it's worth, they're
unreadable by a sighted person like myself.
The only way I can read themis to look at them is by resetting your
messages into "text" messages.I'm using Thunderbird to read email, and
I don't know if any of the other sightedvolunteers are experiencing
this with your emailsJudy s.Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:> That may be
the case for you, but for us who do not have access tonor the > skill
to use an optacon it does not apply.> > > "This would be the best of all
possible worlds, if there were no
religion > in it." [ in a letterto Thomas Jefferson] John Adams     > >

              The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder
Press: > http://www.pathfinderpress.com>
GranmaInternational: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>

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For Gwen andRobert  > Date:> 12/5/2009 2:47:53 AM Eastern Standard
Time > From:> the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-to:>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To:> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent
from the Internet > (Details)> table end> > Hi Roger!I have been
thinking about this subject.In a way, I think that > scanning is
easier, because,when I am doing step one of proofreading, I have >
the> hard copy in front of me that I can check with the optacon when
there is a > scano I am unsureof.
When
I am proofreading others submissions, I don't > have> the hard copy,
so I can only figure out scanos that are obvious or some > from
context,feeling a bit unsure at times.DebbyAt 10:55 PM 11/30/2009, >
rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
wrote>As a matter of fact, I think proofreading is easier than
wrote>scanning.>
Unless
you are submitting a raw scan it is proofreading with extra work. >>
Nevertheless> Kim, I would urge you to take the plunge and try some
scanningtoo.
The > more you learn about scannning the more you learn about >using a
computer in > general.>>>> "I have no country to fight for; my country
is theearth,
and I am a >> citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs>>              The
Militant: > <> http://wwww.themilitant.com>http://www.themilitant.com>
PathfinderPress:
<http://www.pathfinderpress.com>>
http://www.pathfinderpress.com>Granma
International: ><http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>
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Re: > For Gwen and Robert>Date:>11/30/2009 10:37:56 PM Eastern
Standard Time>From:>
kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>Reply-to:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent> from the Internet>(Details)>table
end>> My goodnessGwen, you have nothing > to fear when it comes to
proofreading > should you decide to do it. One thing> I can tell you
is that there are >many ways> to doit. I have a BrailleNote > mPower
and I use it as a Braille display > while I read a book from the >
beginning> to the end. I listen to my screen
reader>readthe text while I follow along > with my fingers using the
BrailleNote.
I'd call it kind of like a feedback> or redundancy thing. Have you
seen
those>floursifters with double or > triple screens in them? Think of
those>what I do
as >if I were sifting flour because > what> the ears hear the fingers
check. I have>tomake sure that everything is all > present and
accounted for, title,
author bylines, copyright dates, ISbn > numbers,>publishers,> etc.
After
the prefatorymaterial I read every word of the >book. Now I'm > taking
in the story (if I'm reading fiction), I'm checking >to see if>there >
are> any errors in thescan you might have missed. If I find any, I
>use the > delete key so I only get rid of stuff that is extraneous to
the text.>I'd write> you and let youknow what I'm doing. If I come
across a bit of >something > in the text I'm not sure about, I'd email
you and ask you about it,>pasting > the> bit of textI'm having trouble
with in the email to you. You'd >send me the
copy of what the text should be, and I make sure it's in the file>I'm
>
working> with.One thing I heard right from the start was to have a
working> >copy of
the
file that isn't touched in case I mess up the one I'm working
with.>I'm
still > in>the beginning stages of this thing. I don't do anything >fancy.

Eventually
I expect to learn the art of this. What I want to know >is if
the>text
makes>sense. I don't heed the word processing program should it have
makes>>grammar
suggestions for me. If I come across a weird spelling of a word or
>name,>
I'd> want> to know how many times it's in the text. I'd probably write
you
to verify > that the word and the way it's spelled is supposed to be
in
the text.>My> philosophy> is to do just enough and err on the side of
caution.
Some >people may not > use Braille at all when proofreading while
others do. I'm still>learningthe> ropes, but so far what I've done is
in the Bookshare
collection so I must > be doing something right or at least I hope
this is so. Nobody will>twist> your> arm and you can proofread
anything that
interests
you. So far >everything > has interested me. The very first thing I
did was a children's book,>butthe> others I've done are fiction books for
grownups.
Regards, Kim.>>

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of gwen tweedy>Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:56 PM>To:>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen
and > Robert>> I too assumed that those books would go very fast
simply from  thingsI>> have read here from time to time.>I think they
are getting lost in the > admin cue now that would be up to him >to
correct me if I am wrong.>And yesfor> me, if I were a proof reader,
except for some of the books >he's helped me > with, I wouldn't read
them either I just can't read those >kinds of>books.>>As> for my
books, I've learned a lot, I feel that even as much as recently >I >
have gotten better, but as for myself, I am keenly aware that my
booksmight>> be>  as fast on the uptake because of my past reputation
as a new scanner.>So I
understand that, and can now deal with that.>If I find that Iam not
making> it I promise you, I'll be the first to >leave volunteering
making> altogether, >
because I  do not need nor want to be in >the way of>good
readingmaterial
here> bookshare is so famous for.>I promise you, I would not want
here> anyone
putting
up junk from me that would >not be fair to y'all.>Some thingsyou can
learn,> some things a person can't and if I fail to get >it, then I'm
out of here
lock stock and barrel.>Most here scan and proof excellently,and I
would
no > more > tarnish >that  reputation for this whole world.>It was my
hope when I > first  put my name up to be a  volunteer to put up
>moreof the Christian type of> books, if not Christian wholesome
>books  those my>grandma would care to > read.>But that wholly has not
happened,  from a numberof factors of my own >> making> the buck stops
here as it were.>If I fail to meet this my personal goal, > that at
that time, which could be >today, tomorrow,or perhaps never then I >
would> bow out and leave it to those>who know best.>I wish I could
proof books, > but I've bungled scans lord knows what I'ddo > to a
proof.>Plus there are so > many> rules to proofing my lands I couldn't
keep up with >them all, that is to > hard for me simple  mind LOL.>I
mostlikely should have just stuck to reading> > it would have been a
lot >less trouble for us all.>You have a wonderful > day,>Gwen>>block
quote>----- OriginalMessage ----->From:>Monica Willyard>To:>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:>
Monday,
November 30, 2009 3:26 PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and>
Robert> Gwen, you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable
member of our>> community.
Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting to be>> approved?
Are> they on step 1 or in the admin queue?>>Gwen, there are several >
factors> in play regarding Robert's books. I don't >know if you're
awareof all of > these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them>can
probably be addressed by> people on this list. Others can't.>>On the
staff side, Carriewas on > vacation for a week before Thanksgiving.
>Also, most of the staff had some time >
off> last week for the holiday. I >have found>that she
off> generallyapproves
books > from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours of >their entry into the
admin queue.> Carrie used to be a volunteer just like us,>and she
remembersthe > frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be
>approved. She has worked with >
Robert> as a fellow volunteer as well and knows>of his skillsand
Robert> flexible >
attitude.>> From here, it looks like the bottleneck right now is in
getting books >> proofread. The number of books on step 1 is pilingup
again. Our number > > of active>volunteers and their preferences for
reading determine how fast a > book> is >processed. This factor
affects everyonewho submits books. For awhile > everyone>was worried
about not having any books to work on.
Some
people quit>> looking for new books on step 1 becauseof all of the
books with holds on >> them. Now>there are a lot of excellent books
needing a proofreader.>>The
other> factor, on a more personal level,is hard for me to explain. >
Robert is a > consistent and dedicated volunteer. I respect him for
his >
dedication>and
teamwork.> Yet I am hesitant to takehis books for a personal reason.
>In
the past, > Robert has been willing to scan some adult-rated content
for > Bookshare.>It's> my perception that muchof what he scans would
be classified as >steamy > romances. I prefer not to read the steamier
books. This isn't about >Robert>or>

his skills as a submitter.It's about me and what I want to read. I >>
generally don't like to draw attention to this issue since I think
it's a >>
personal>
one>on my part. SinceI feel uncomfortable asking Robert which books
one>are >>
adult, I let others take his books when he submits. I figured it would
>make>

him angry>if I askedabout it. If I am wrong about what Robert submits,
I > apologize >and take full responsibility for not checking out my
assumptions
with> him.>>I thinkwhat I'm saying is that we might do a better job
with> of >
communicating >with each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't
know that Robert's>> books weren't>gettingadded to the collection. I
also assumed that most > people are more >comfortable with adult
content than I am and that those would> be done quickly.>Icould be
wrong on both counts.>>The last thing I want is > for you or Robert to
feel ignored or >unappreciated. I don't have an > immediate>
solution.I think we could find >ways to work this>out together, with
the > help of the Bookshare community. It would help us >fix the
problem if we know> exactlywhat's going on, if the books are on step
1,> or are they getting > lost in the admin queue.>>Monica
Willyard>"The best way to predict the future> is tocreate it." -- Peter Drucker>>>

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---->At 10:32 AM

11/30/2009, you wrote:>> block>quote>I think a timely manner is the
key.> And those who have scanned for > years and their books are good,
and >everyone knows they are good, to me there>shouldn't be a
delay.>Some books get up there right away, so what is the > difference
in books?>  Especially those of like  Robert's when his books
have>been tried and > true for a long time.> Eventually  volunteers
are gonna > quit submitting books, because they > aren't getting
anywhere. Some books> stay> up there for a long time.>It's grand
for   kids books grand for grants, but > I think they are >forgetting the

submitters
especially those hardworking> ones like Bob >who turns in>a quality
scan each and every time not like his > wife who turns no quality
>scans LOL.>I understand me, but Bob thatis > different.>His> should
go right away.>Gwen>>----- Original Message ----->From:>robert >
tweedy>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent:
Monday, November30, 2009 11:58 AM>> Subject:> [bksvol-discuss] Re:
What is the main concern these days?>>That's fine as > long as our
books get into the system on a timeymatter.>----- Original > Message>
----->From:>Denise
Thompson>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, > December
Thompson>01, 2009 2:50
PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss]Re: What is the main > concern> these
PM>days?>>I
think BKS's concern is to do books that fit their grant > money. >
educational which seems to be most booksfor kids and teens in
addition> to >text books,> of course. Adult books don't seem to be
educational- > especially those that
have some romance in them.Since they have out-sourcers and> do their
grant
books>with them as well as in house, I feel like I need to > continue
books>to
scan
adult books for the restof us who aren't students and who> don't want
to >
read kids>books and teen books.>Denise>>   At 09:32 AM > 11/30/2009, you
wrote:>block
quote>I've noticeda strong emphasis on children's > books> as well.
quote>This is
wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense of books > for us
adults,
too.>>Melissa>>roberttweedy
wrote:>block quote>I am just > wondering> about bookshare policy of
submitted books. Taking a >look at the cue, it > looks like children's
bookswhich is okay but what >about books>that are just> for
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