[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

I wonder what the braille transcriber's manual would have done in the book I am 
proofing where there is a quotation mark before the elipsis; leaving a space 
before the first elipsis would really look strange. I apologize for bringing 
this up again but I do think for the sake of new scanners and proofreaders that 
the manual should clarify. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mayrie ReNae 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:58 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses


  Hi Bob and everyone,

  I have just looked at my copy of the braille transcription manual.  It has a 
copyright date of 1994, so may have changed since.  However, it does state that 
spaces should appear both before and after an elipsis, except when the elipsis 
is followed by a punctuation mark, which should follow the elipsis without a 
space.

  This formatting was not the case when I learned braille, and I apologize if 
my previous understanding of what was correct and up-to-date has misled anyone. 
 

  The formatting of a space, three periods without spaces, and another space 
does not seem to make Bookshare's braille translator barf.  Thank goodness!

  Again, I'm sorry that my early learning of braille and my passing on of that 
obviously outdated knowledge has inconvenienced anyone.

  Mayrie





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  From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:45 AM
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses


  I know we've had this discussion before, but I don't remember the outcome. 
It's really up to the Braille  users since it effects them more.

  Without further direction, I would put spaces on both sides of the elipsis.

  Bob
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: EVAN REESE 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:39 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses


    I think it would look a bit strange if you were to put a space after the 
ellipsis but not before it. So if you're not going to put a space in front, you 
shouldn't put one after it either.

    Evan

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Lori Castner 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses


      I know this topic has come up many times, but I'm confused again.
      In the latest issue of the Volunteer Manual it states not to place a 
space before the first dot and to remove all spaces between the three dots, but 
it does not state what to do after the third dot if the ellipsis occurs in the 
middle of a sentence as it often does.
      Ellipses are frequently used in mid-sentence in dialog, and I want to be 
sure to handle them correctly.

      Thanks.
      Lori C.



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