[bksvol-discuss] Re: Dealing with Sidebars

  • From: Mike <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:21:32 -0700

I did something similar to Cindy Ray when I validated a book with side bars (fortunately only a few). I cut each piece of the sidebar and moved it to the end of the page. Sometimes it was easy to tell where the sidebar text began and ended because there were junk characters there that (I guess) represented the edges of the box around the sidebar. Then I put a line of dashes between the main text and the sidebar text. 


Cindy Ray wrote:
I took the rest of the sentence and moved it up to where the beginning of the sentence went. I figured out the flow and then moved the sidebar one way or another, but I did not label it. I did leave a line between. 

Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Dealing with Sidebars


Hi, Curtis,
That's a very good question. I may try putting them between paragraphs, 
so as to interrupt
the flow of text as little as possible, while being sure to keep them on the page where I found them. I will put a blank line before and after, and I may 
label them with the word "sidebar".

Paula
----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:21 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Dealing with Sidebars
Side bars, in which order, then would you present the text? Since our 
text,
for most of us is read from top to bottom, how or when to integrate "side 
bars," is the question. :)

Curtis Delzer
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Dealing with Sidebars


Hi Paula,

         It has been my experience that all side bar stuff is not
duplicated in the text. Either way, I think that deleting the mashed 
stuff is compromising the text.  I'd say reject the book, and tell
the submitter that a more careful scan needs to be done.  Just my
opinion.  We can't mess with copyright laws by omitting text.  So,
I'd say, bite the bullet and reject the scan, asking for a rescan
that is more careful to keep text that belongs together
together. I've had to do a book with boxes and side bars, and it was 
definitely a bear to prepare for submission.  Not a task for a
half-hearted submitter.

Peace,
Mayrie

At 06:43 PM 3/26/2008, you wrote:
I downloaded a book for validating, which was rated Excellent, but 
is

a
bit of a mess in some places. It looks like there are sidebars, which scanned as bits and pieces of sentences in various places. If I try to figure out how to put each of the sentences back together, I could still 
be

working on the same book at this time next year. G!
Since sidebars are generally drawn from the text, the information 
would
still be there if I delete all these random words. Is it permissible to delete sidebars that don't scan properly, in order to clean up a book? 

Paula

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