[bksvol-discuss] Re: Chess books

Thanks.

I have a 14 hour non-stop flight from Newark to New Delhi for a nice, almost
three week vacation in one of my favorite parts of the world.  It's the
first time my wife has been able to join me in Asia so we're looking at real
fun.  Long flights, however, are great for non-stop hacking sessions so your
help in this is great as I may be able to put it to some use this week.

BTW: for audio only, the Macintosh chess game is really very accessible and
VoiceOver becomes a better screen reader all of the time.  


Happy Hacking,
cdh
 
Chris Hofstader
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chess books

Actually Chris, the notation system is standard and universal.

It is actually really easy.

Ranks are denoted by a letter, a through h
the files are denoted by a number written in NEMETH which is 1 through 8

The pieces are as follows.

Bishop: L, can't have two B's can we, L represents "laufer" which is what it

is called in German
King: K
Queen: Q
Pawn:: P
Rook: r
knight: S again can't have two many Ks on the board, S is the German symbol 
for the knight (Springer) which was a final Jeopardy question the other 
night, I got it, smile.

Beyond that the notation is very simple, and involves columns between 
notations.  Pawns aren't noted in notation.

Braille chess notation isn't that hard to figure out.  smile.

Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
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Guide Dogs for the Blind
Alumni Association
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chess books


> Some problems that we'll have with the "Chess for Dummies'" book are the
> same as all sorts of "Dummies" books in that it will contain epigraphs all
> over the place which is very bad for OCR.  Second, I'm willing to bet that
> its board diagrams use black and white chess pieces with no indication 
> other
> than color which cannot be automatically converted into a textual or even
> tactile diagram without a lot of intelligence built into an OCR program
> prepared for chess.  Finally, the diagrams will probably need to be
> recreated using some sort of notation that makes sense to a user with 
> vision
> impairment which would probably require a sighted person to hand
> transliterate from the source into the modified format.
>
> A decent hacker could write a program that would make the transliteration
> fairly easy but it would, nonetheless, require a fair amount of hands on
> effort to build diagrams we can use effectively.
>
> If I find the time (an unlikely event) I plan on opening up AppleScript to
> build a bridge between the Macintosh chess game and a refreshable Braille
> display (I have a PAC Mate 40 kicking around the house somewhere).
> Ostensibly, I can use the VoiceOver screen access utility to pump the dots
> out to the display and, although my Braille skills are poor, I can quickly
> learn an abbreviated set of items that I can enjoy in a tactile manner.
>
> Maybe I should get the Hadley book just to use their notation system as it
> would be a good idea to develop a base standard so readers of different
> materials won't need to learn new systems each time they want to read 
> about
> the game.
>
> I've wanted an audio tutorial for chess since spring 1999 when, at
> Henter-Joyce, an intern built a talking version of the GNU WinBoard game
> that used JAWS to handle speech.  Our program was kind of buggy but pretty
> usable.  It died on the vine years ago.
>
> Happy Hacking,
> cdh
>
> Chris Hofstader
> email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com
> Skype: BlindChristian
>
>
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Chess books
>
> If you put the word chess in the advanced search space
> you'll find a bunch of books, but I don't think
> they're quite what you're looking for. Some are
> fictkion involving chess matches or players; one s by
> Kasparov analyzing some matches; and one is the
> history of chess  all the way up to and including
> modern matches.
>
> There are two peoplke I'll ask if they could validate
> the books; one person requested many,many chess books
> to be added to the collection, one of which is Chess
> for Dummies. I thought I'd saved his name but I can't
> find it, specifically. I think it's one of two people
> and I'll ask.
>
> But at the time I posted the request someone here on
> the list said he could validate. I think it was one of
> the Bobs, but I'm not sure. Hopefully whoever it was
> will see your post and volunteer.
>
> CIndy
> --- Mary Anne Lynskey <yeksnyl1953am@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> I will be scanning the following two books.  Both
>> are by Rhys Boen.
>>
>> In Dublin's FairCity
>> Oh Danny Boy
>>
>> I've also just started playing email chess and I've
>> ordered a book from our library.  Would there be
>> someone in the group who could work on the diagrams
>> as necessary for me?  I haven't seen the book yet so
>> don't know what it is like.  It's just a good place
>> for me to start.  The book is:
>>
>> Chess for Dummies
>>
>> If anyone would be interested in helping with this
>> project, I'll get more info about the chess book.  I
>> probably won't have the book for a week or so so
>> don't know how feasible it will be for me to do it.
>>
>> Are there any chess books on the site?  I don't know
>> how to look by subject.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mary Anne Lynskey
>
>
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> A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT
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