Some problems that we'll have with the "Chess for Dummies'" book are the same as all sorts of "Dummies" books in that it will contain epigraphs all over the place which is very bad for OCR. Second, I'm willing to bet that its board diagrams use black and white chess pieces with no indication other than color which cannot be automatically converted into a textual or even tactile diagram without a lot of intelligence built into an OCR program prepared for chess. Finally, the diagrams will probably need to be recreated using some sort of notation that makes sense to a user with vision impairment which would probably require a sighted person to hand transliterate from the source into the modified format. A decent hacker could write a program that would make the transliteration fairly easy but it would, nonetheless, require a fair amount of hands on effort to build diagrams we can use effectively. If I find the time (an unlikely event) I plan on opening up AppleScript to build a bridge between the Macintosh chess game and a refreshable Braille display (I have a PAC Mate 40 kicking around the house somewhere). Ostensibly, I can use the VoiceOver screen access utility to pump the dots out to the display and, although my Braille skills are poor, I can quickly learn an abbreviated set of items that I can enjoy in a tactile manner. Maybe I should get the Hadley book just to use their notation system as it would be a good idea to develop a base standard so readers of different materials won't need to learn new systems each time they want to read about the game. I've wanted an audio tutorial for chess since spring 1999 when, at Henter-Joyce, an intern built a talking version of the GNU WinBoard game that used JAWS to handle speech. Our program was kind of buggy but pretty usable. It died on the vine years ago. Happy Hacking, cdh Chris Hofstader email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com Skype: BlindChristian -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:43 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Chess books If you put the word chess in the advanced search space you'll find a bunch of books, but I don't think they're quite what you're looking for. Some are fictkion involving chess matches or players; one s by Kasparov analyzing some matches; and one is the history of chess all the way up to and including modern matches. There are two peoplke I'll ask if they could validate the books; one person requested many,many chess books to be added to the collection, one of which is Chess for Dummies. I thought I'd saved his name but I can't find it, specifically. I think it's one of two people and I'll ask. But at the time I posted the request someone here on the list said he could validate. I think it was one of the Bobs, but I'm not sure. Hopefully whoever it was will see your post and volunteer. CIndy --- Mary Anne Lynskey <yeksnyl1953am@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I will be scanning the following two books. Both > are by Rhys Boen. > > In Dublin's FairCity > Oh Danny Boy > > I've also just started playing email chess and I've > ordered a book from our library. Would there be > someone in the group who could work on the diagrams > as necessary for me? I haven't seen the book yet so > don't know what it is like. It's just a good place > for me to start. The book is: > > Chess for Dummies > > If anyone would be interested in helping with this > project, I'll get more info about the chess book. I > probably won't have the book for a week or so so > don't know how feasible it will be for me to do it. > > Are there any chess books on the site? 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