I vote for putting the word 'Chapter' in front of the numbers. By not seeing the numbers being much bigger than the surrounding text, blind people are deprived of information available to sighted people. By putting 'Chapter' in, we are restoring the information (the fact that it's a new chapter) that is not otherwise available to them. My 2 cents, Carrie "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } It's not only a matter of hearing numbers interrupt the text. After all, if the book contains page numbers they will do that as well. For me, I like the word chapter being placed in the book because it is easier to know where you are, and later you can do a search with the word and find your place rather than searching for numbers and being brought to page numbers, years, and any other content in the book which has digits. For the record, I did ask Marisa this in the past, and she said to go ahead and put them in. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Smith To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter Numbers Monica, in my opinion, it would be an alteration to the book design. We who listen to books being read also know what the stand-alone numbers represent, and it is not a problem to just have the numbers read out as they appear throughout the text. Good question, though, and thanks for thinking about what makes books most readable! Peace and Hope, Donna --------------------------------- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Cortada Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:31 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Chapter Numbers My question relates to the way many books start a new chapter with only the chapter number. Sighted readers know it?s a new chapter because the font is different, usually very large. When the book is processed by an electronic reader, I think it?s really odd to have a number blerted out in between sentences. Is it permissible to add the word ?Chapter? in front of the chapter numeral in order to indicate in words what the page communicates in font attributes? Is adding the word ?Chapter? in that setting a forbidden alteration of the text, or a reasonable adaptation of the text for use by screen and Braille readers where some font attributes are not translated? Monica in Maryland --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates.