On 2012-07-20, at 2:58 AM, edmund ronald wrote: > My humble suggestion as a practising photographer would be to forget about > "real" camera profiling in anger unless you really MUST do it. MUST means > that you do this professionally for a manufacturer, have an older camera that > is painful to replace, or reproduce artwork, products or fashion. As somebody who's doing art reproduction, let me heartily echo Edumund's advice. Here's a link to a post that describes what I'm doing; it should give you some idea of what you have to do before ICC profiling starts to make sense. //www.freelists.org/post/argyllcms/Culling-outliers-from-ti3-input-data-before-camera-profiling,10 Not mentioned in there is that the digital part of my workflow starts with a DNG profile based on an automatic recognition of a ColorChecker chart but with a hand-drawn tone curve to produce properly linearized output (that is, something that's D50 Lab 50,0,0 when measured with a spectrophotometer is ProPhoto RGB 100,100,100 when it comes out of Adobe Camera Raw). Indeed, I'm pretty sure that just what I get straight out of Camera Raw is better than any of the local giclee shops can do, but Argyll absolutely improves on that. Cheers, b&