[amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket

  • From: "Avalon Embroidery" <avalonembroidery@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:03:24 -0800

Re: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacketWell, I guess I 
still have not solved the problem with a different font because I am still 
getting thread breaks and yet another tip broken off my NEW titanium needles I 
just got the day before yesterday, but I do think that density is an issue 
because the spots where the thread and or needle breaks is a very dense part of 
the letter.  What a pain the in the you know where.  I am running another font 
right now and so far so good but I can't even stand to be in the same room as 
it sews out!  I figure if I walk away and not watch, maybe things will go  
better......hey!  its done and no thread breaks!  maybe I am in luck!  I have  
only been working on trying to figure this out for 5 hours now!  ugh!

Barbara
Avalon
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Body Cover 
  To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:35 PM
  Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket


  Darn!
  I was hoping to here something glaringly wrong!
  Sounds good to me.
  I know that font sews down some small thin blocks
  at the point where certain parts of the letters overlap
  to keep the garment from showing through as the 
  2nd column pulls the threads back from the 1st column
  as they overlap, With the block sewn underneath
  it pulls back the column still but only shows the sewn
  block underneath making the separation not noticeable.

  I think they change in fonts is the best choice then once your job is
  done and your hair grows back you can try to decipher what
  the answer is.

  Good Luck

  Ron Vinyard
  Body Cover / Magic Stitches
  1-888-435-0176
  541-471-1504
  fax 471-0427

  420 SW H street
  Grants Pass, OR 97526

  info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  www.bodycoverdesign.com


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Roland R. Irish III 
    To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:08 PM
    Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket


    I've run into problems before with fonts-at smaller sizes things do go 
haywire-its trying to sew too many stitches into one area-around a curve in the 
serif, etc.-that give you ulcers. Changing the font as you found helps, 
otherwise you have to go in and play with moving stitches, changing auto 
density, short stitches, etc. until it works. Okay for large quantity jobs but 
when you are only doing 1 or 2 items it's easier to switch fonts and tell the 
customer he loves it!
    Roland


      From: "Avalon Embroidery" <avalonembroidery@xxxxxxx>
      Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:36:19 -0800
      To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket




      speed was 600......

      font density was the default of 4.5..........and I added a bit of column 
width  (120%)

      needles were  new 70/10 sharps - (titanium) and I was unable to go more 
than one to two letters before all hell broke loose.

      Now, I've switched to CooperDak font.....same speed, same density, same 
column width, same needles......no problems.

      weird.



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Body Cover <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
        To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:24 PM
        Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket

        What you haven't told
        us was the density you are using on that font
        at .4 high?
        and what speed is the machine running.
        Nylon is very tight and heats up a needle very quickly
        making for hot soft needles that bend and break easier.

        Let us know.

        Ron Vinyard
        Body Cover / Magic Stitches
        1-888-435-0176
        541-471-1504
        fax 471-0427

        420 SW H street
        Grants Pass, OR 97526

        info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        www.bodycoverdesign.com <http://www.bodycoverdesign.com> 


          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Avalon Embroidery <mailto:avalonembroidery@xxxxxxx>  
          To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:09 AM
          Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket

          scientific testing is now showing the FONT to be part of the problem.

          using CooperDak  .4" letters   sewing out RHS letters........all is 
well through 6 sewouts on the nylon.
          using Full Block    .4" letters   sewing out RHS.......the needle 
just busted on the H.    All 4 needle breaks have been when using Full Block 
only.

          I'm starting to suspect a problem in density in the lettering of this 
font.

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Roland R. Irish III <mailto:signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
            To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:11 AM
            Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon jacket

            When we get the 'shredding' we run a fingernail done the needle in 
question-and if there is a 'burr' you'll feel your finger tip catch on it...and 
that means your needle is hitting on something-either off center and hitting 
the needle plate, or your jacket is hanging off the table and pulled the hoop 
as the needle went through-and the needle hit the plate. Or someone 
repositioned the jacket as it was sewing or (I've done this) accidentally hit 
the hoop arm bending over to get something...
            doesn't take much at all to make that needle go sidewise,  just a 
hair and it will hit the plate underneath and cause a 'burr' when the tip bends 
a little. That's what catches and unravels the thread but it keeps on sewing....
            Roland


              From: "Avalon Embroidery" <avalonembroidery@xxxxxxx>
              Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:43:09 -0800
              To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
              Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon 
jacket




              Judy        

              I'm getting "partial" shredding breaks......where it appears the 
inner core of the thread usually stays intact, but the outer "shell" gets all 
knotted up in the needle case area...

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: OnleeJudy@xxxxxxx 
                To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:31 AM
                Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles and thread breaks on nylon 
jacket

                Hi there.  A couple of things to try...more backing, as nylon 
is very light, and sew slow....and depending on the type of thread breaks 
(clean breaks or shredding breaks), check needle alignment, and add or subtract 
MT.

                BEST WISHES!








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