Ed-not being a computer geek or rocket science-I learn from the ground up...the hard way. Having done a lot of Scout training the analogies come easy-using a 'visual picture' helps explain stuff fast. Going 'overboard' (link fence and rope) is so easy to visualize instead of 'thread size' and 'weave pattern'....isn't it! Now if they can just make a 'flip down' magnifying lens in front of the needle case so I stop putting those darn needles in backwards with my bad eyesight...LOL As for making it through first year of business...I'm amazed at how many people open up a shop and have no concept of cost/wholesale/retail pricing and overhead, etc.....and wonder why they have no profit left but are busy all the time! Great to work out of your house with no overhead-until you have to move into a commercial spot and suddenly your pricing is way out of whack! Should be part of the training-'business cash flow 101-how not to go bankrupt!' Back to work....no rest for the wicked! Roland From: "Ed Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx> Say Roland, You've got that right! This really is a sophisticated science. And it's amazing how many of us make it through our first year of business knowing only squat. (I'm referring to myself, of course.) Oh, and great analogy - the chain link fence. Okay if I use it? I love analogies. And as for the dandruff. I heard Selson Blue works well. Ed