You can use a font like Full Block at 1.5", column width around 115% w/ zig zag underlay of 90% at 15 density. Then you can copy/paste the lettering and setup the 2nd lettering to sew backwards. No underlay, settings at column width 30% with 10 density. This will hold down your satin stitches nicely so they will never pull out but yet it saves you lots of stitches over coverting to fill and in my opinion looks nicer than Fill lettering does. Sometimes the 2nd lettering needs to be looked at closely and maybe changed to wireframe to remove some stitches that may not look too good. I have attatched a sample design of what I am talking about in case anyone is curious as to how this looks. I don't normally put a color change in but I did on this so you can see it better. My old EDSIV software allows me to set this up without copy/pasting and it does a better job cause it finishes each letter as it sews as opposed to sewing it out first then going back over it. I was told this was a glitch in the program that was fixed in later. Aaron Sargent The Linen Barn linen@xxxxxxxxxxx Medford, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: Wolf Embroidery To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:24 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Large Font for Carhart Jacket Can anyone recommend a good front for 1-1.5" lettering? I'm doing the back of a carhart jacket and I don't want it to come out like some I have seen. The solid satin stitch does not seem to last. Lisa Wolf Embroidery Wolfemb@xxxxxxxx Lisa and Don Ridley