[accmemberdiscussion] Re: Mobile: Not Vick's Fighting Dogs

  • From: "Renee Jones" <rsjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:35:36 -0500

Hi Peggi,

I totally agree with you regarding the dogs that have been used for fighting 
and "can't tolerate the sight of another dog".  Any dog can be a potential 
fighter, regardless of breed.  And you are right about the fact that our 
seizure was not typical.  My main point was that we don't always know the 
entire story and I hate dogs being lumped together because of breed.  We all 
know there is still too much breed profiling going on.  A dangerous dog is a 
dangerous dog, regardless of breed.  By the same token, an adoptable dog is an 
adoptable dog, again, regardless of breed.  That unfortunately is not the 
reality in many shelters.  

Renee Jones-Lewis, CPDT 
Pet Marketing/Canine Specialist 
1-800-533-3377 ext. 381 
rsjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of peggi mcardle
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 AM
  To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: Mobile: Not Vick's Fighting Dogs


        Renee, there would be a difference, imo, between fighting dogs "that 
can't tolerate the sight of another dog" and puppies that were potential 
fighters because there was paraphernalia in the property used to train dogs to 
fight.  i agree that it was horribly unfair to put those puppies down, however 
to put down other potentially adoptable dogs in favor of high risk, fighting 
dogs is equally appalling to me.  i truely wish that all dogs could be rehabbed 
and adopted into responsible, loving homes.  i applaud your efforts in this 
special case.  however i am afraid that it wasn't typical of the seizure of 
most fighting dogs that are bred AND trained to be agressive.  that those dogs 
are favored over other adoptable dogs is the travesty to me.
        peggi

        --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Renee Jones <rsjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


          From: Renee Jones <rsjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
          Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: Mobile: Not Vick's Fighting Dogs
          To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:03 AM


           
          There is always "more to a story".  For example, when 17 Pitbulls 
were seized in Dothan and the owner was charged, not with FIGHTING the dogs, 
but with training the dogs to fight, based on paraphernalia, 13 of those dogs 
were PUPPIES, under the age of 12 weeks.  I personally temperment tested every 
one of those dogs, including the adults every month for six months, until the 
judge made a decision regarding their fate.  He ruled that we (Save-A-Pet) 
would be allowed to re-home the puppies.  An hour later he reversed his 
decision, all must die, NOT because a single one failed the testing (including 
the adults) but because he was afraid the case against the owner would be lost 
if the dogs were deemed adoptable.  I personally held each and every one of 
those beautiful, sweet and VERY adoptable dogs as they were euthanized.  THAT 
is a travesty!  Not every dog seized is a trained fighting dog.  It's absurd 
that anyone would think so.  The only bright spot in this entire incident is 
that I was able to testify against Johnnie Ray Lewis and he WAS sentenced to 
102 years in prison.  6 years for each dog.  

          Renee Jones-Lewis, CPDT -KA
          Pet Marketing/Canine Specialist 
          1-800-533-3377 ext. 381 
          rsjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            -----Original Message-----
            From: accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of peggi mcardle
            Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:42 PM
            To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: Mobile: Not Vick's Fighting Dogs


                  OMG!!!  why would they put down adoptable dogs in favor of 
dogs that probably can't be re-habbed?  this is a travesty!  peggi

                  --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Theresa M Cook <southnmist@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:


                    From: Theresa M Cook <southnmist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                    Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Mobile: Not Vick's Fighting 
Dogs
                    To: "ALPet-Law" <alpet-law@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ACC" 
<accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                    Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 4:34 PM


                    http://tinyurl.com/nlo4my
                     
                    What happens to dogs confiscated from a “dogfighting ring” 
when the villain, the owner of the property and dogs, is not a celebrity such 
as disgraced football player Michael Vick? Mobile County animal control 
officers and residents are about to find out.
                     
                    Even with a new $2 million shelter, boasting 10,000 square 
feet of space and a capacity to hold 100 animals, Mobile County Animal Shelter 
will be faced with the decision to euthanize as many as 30 or more adoptable 
dogs. In order to afford isolated cages for each of the 27 pit bull and pit 
bull mixes impounded from the raid on a suspected dogfighting ring in north 
Mobile County in early September, healthy dogs waiting adoption will lose their 
cages, and their chance for life. Animal experts state that dogs trained to 
fight are generally sequestered  from other dogs, with the exception of 
participating in training or organized fights, and cannot tolerate the sight of 
another dog. Therefore, cages directly in front of the impounded fighting dogs 
have been emptied.
                     
                    (more at link) 



                     

                    Theresa 

                    RAOAL Responsible Animal Owners of Alabama 

                    The video HSUS wants to hide! 

                    ~~~If you can't stand BEHIND our troops...feel free to 
stand in FRONT of them!!! ~~~ 





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