accessible-iOS Re: IOS 7.0.4

  • From: Jessica D <jldail13@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:40:10 -0500

What does get fixed in this version? How do I get it to 

show up on my iphone?Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Kevin Barry <krbarry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> It is for the 5 as well. I've not checked on my 4s yet.
> Haven't checked on my iPad either.
> 
> At 07:23 PM 11/14/2013, you wrote:
>> is it just for the 5s?
>> I am not seeing the update.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Kevin Barry <krbarry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > IOS 7.0.4 is out. Doesn't fix the VO volume issue on my 5s or the double 
>> > speaking of "screen locked".
>> >
>> > At 10:15 PM 11/13/2013, you wrote:
>> >> yeah neighb.
>> >>
>> >> Anthony D,. Tom
>> >> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> >> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to
>> >> remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:55 AM
>> >> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I m certainly not sitting in an ivory tower.  I'm just being pragmatic.  I
>> >> was just telling you the facts of economic life.  I never said it was 
>> >> fair,
>> >> right, or just.  As a person who grew up watching my mother working as a
>> >> waitress in a diner for less than a livable wage, and then spend 5 days a
>> >> week taking care of rich peoples children around the clock, sacrificing 
>> >> time
>> >> with her own kids because it was the honest to god best she could do at 
>> >> the
>> >> time,  I know the value of money.  I find it funny that you, a person who
>> >> has no idea of my background, or economic status are accusing me of
>> >> anything. lol. For all you know, I could be your neighbor.    Being
>> >> Jamaican, I know very well the relative exchange rates found in the West
>> >> Indies thank you very much.  But the fact still remains. Owning an iPhone
>> >> isn't your god given right.  I would like to live in a mansion but you 
>> >> know
>> >> what?  I can't afford it.  I have come to grips with this, and have moved
>> >> on.  I'm fortunate enough to afford an iPhone, and the ecosystem that 
>> >> comes
>> >> with it.  If I couldn't, guess what?  I would move on.  I would find an
>> >> alternative I could afford to maintain.  So please, spare me your
>> >> circumstances.  It's a phone.  5 years ago, none of us were using iPhones
>> >> and we managed to get by.  So I can't make my heart bleed for those who
>> >> can't afford to maintain an iPhone.  It's not food, shelter, or medicine
>> >> after all.
>> >>
>> >> Ricardo Walker
>> >> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> >> www.appletothecore.info
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anthony Tom, Studio
>> >> <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > you sit there in your condemnatory ivory tower... you know what 1 US
>> >> > dollar costs me? $6.50 Trinidad and tobago. i bought a $15 Itunes card
>> >> > that i cannot now use. you know what it costs me? $180 Trinidad and
>> >> tobago. yes!!!
>> >> > twice the cost. thank god that he placed you wherever you've found
>> >> > your fortune. but it is not the well-to-do that comprise this world.
>> >> > then again, if there weren't other people in this world than the
>> >> > fortunate ones, whose face would you have been able to drag through the
>> >> dirt like this?
>> >> >
>> >> > uttered at the risk of being expelled from the list.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anthony D,. Tom
>> >> > I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> >> > It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than
>> >> > to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo
>> >> > Walker
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:17 PM
>> >> > To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes.  They are.  And it effects so few of their customers, they don't
>> >> care.
>> >> > Because the sad but true fact is, they don't want people with 0
>> >> > balances in their checking accounts or maxed out credit cards.  And
>> >> > like I said earlier, if you can't manage to have $1 in your account, you
>> >> have way bigger issues
>> >> > than being able to update an app on your phone.    So like you said
>> >> "welcome
>> >> > to the real world."
>> >> >
>> >> > For the record, is it good customer service?  Of course not.  But,
>> >> > when you buy a premium product, you often have to deal with stuff like
>> >> > this.  Like someone mentioned earlier, if you can afford to buy a
>> >> > sports car, your probably not worrying about the price of gas.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ricardo Walker
>> >> > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> >> > www.appletothecore.info
>> >> >
>> >> > On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Tom, Studio
>> >> > <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> so why tell me i can't upgrade programmes i have already bought
>> >> >> because i may have run out of money? for crying out loud ... ... ...
>> >> >> ... they've already been paid for!!!!! they are forcing you to have
>> >> > money!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anthony D,. Tom
>> >> >> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> >> >> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences,
>> >> >> than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna
>> >> >> Goodin
>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:45 AM
>> >> >> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Very good point, Ricardo.
>> >> >> Donna
>> >> >> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever
>> >> >>> method of
>> >> >> payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were
>> >> >> being denied access to?  If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on
>> >> >> a form of payment is unreasonable.  I figure if this is your last
>> >> >> dollar to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting
>> >> >> free apps
>> >> > for your iPhone.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> JMO.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Ricardo Walker
>> >> >>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> >> >>> www.appletothecore.info
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I
>> >> >>>> have
>> >> >> fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish
>> >> >> college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not
>> >> >> that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get
>> >> >> my medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like
>> >> this.
>> >> >>>> Jewel
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that
>> >> >> unreasonable.  As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit
>> >> >> or debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account.  You can get
>> >> >> a gift card for $10, that's just not that much money.  Once you've
>> >> >> done that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps
>> >> >> you need to do.  I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole
>> >> >> ****** life.  Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least
>> >> >> it's a job.  If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about
>> >> >> how to
>> >> > change that.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone
>> >> >>>>> who is
>> >> >> blind has to be on a fixed income.
>> >> >>>>> Donna
>> >> >>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes.
>> >> >>>>>> For
>> >> >> example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I
>> >> >> should still be able to get free apps, download apps I already
>> >> >> purchased but are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar
>> >> appointments.
>> >> >> Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the
>> >> >> lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until
>> >> >> their
>> >> > or is money available.
>> >> >> Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as
>> >> >> requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo.
>> >> >>>>>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month
>> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >> somehow don't qualify for food stamps.
>> >> >>>>>> Jewel
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker
>> >> >>>>>>> <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I'm totally confused.  How would Apple Know if you have money in
>> >> >>>>>>> your
>> >> >> bank account or not?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>> >> >>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> >> >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> 
>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a
>> >> >>>>>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if
>> >> >>>>>>>> you
>> >> >> don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you
>> >> >> run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password.
>> >> >> I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will
>> >> >> join me in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has
>> >> >> available funds all the time.
>> >> >>>>>>>> Jewel
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>>> they know because your card gets cut off if there is no money
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