It shows up now. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:32 PM, kate andrekson <iloveios7@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > No. Just go to settings, general, software update. It should show up there > if you have an i'phone 4 or later. > Thanks > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jessica D <jldail13@xxxxxxxxx > To: "accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date sent: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:23:05 -0500 > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: IOS 7.0.4 > > is it just for the 5s? > I am not seeing the update. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Kevin Barry <krbarry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > IOS 7.0.4 is out. Doesn't fix the VO volume issue on my 5s or the double > speaking of "screen locked". > > At 10:15 PM 11/13/2013, you wrote: > yeah neighb. > > Anthony D,. Tom > I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. > It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to > remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:55 AM > To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money > > Hi, > > I m certainly not sitting in an ivory tower. I'm just being pragmatic. I > was just telling you the facts of economic life. I never said it was fair, > right, or just. As a person who grew up watching my mother working as a > waitress in a diner for less than a livable wage, and then spend 5 days a > week taking care of rich peoples children around the clock, sacrificing time > with her own kids because it was the honest to god best she could do at the > time, I know the value of money. I find it funny that you, a person who > has no idea of my background, or economic status are accusing me of > anything. lol. For all you know, I could be your neighbor. Being > Jamaican, I know very well the relative exchange rates found in the West > Indies thank you very much. But the fact still remains. Owning an iPhone > isn't your god given right. I would like to live in a mansion but you know > what? I can't afford it. I have come to grips with this, and have moved > on. I'm fortunate enough to afford an iPhone, and the ecosystem that comes > with it. If I couldn't, guess what? I would move on. I would find an > alternative I could afford to maintain. So please, spare me your > circumstances. It's a phone. 5 years ago, none of us were using iPhones > and we managed to get by. So I can't make my heart bleed for those who > can't afford to maintain an iPhone. It's not food, shelter, or medicine > after all. > > Ricardo Walker > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anthony Tom, Studio > <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > you sit there in your condemnatory ivory tower... you know what 1 US > dollar costs me? $6.50 Trinidad and tobago. i bought a $15 Itunes card > that i cannot now use. you know what it costs me? $180 Trinidad and > tobago. yes!!! > twice the cost. thank god that he placed you wherever you've found > your fortune. but it is not the well-to-do that comprise this world. > then again, if there weren't other people in this world than the > fortunate ones, whose face would you have been able to drag through the > dirt like this? > > uttered at the risk of being expelled from the list. > > Anthony D,. Tom > I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. > It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than > to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo > Walker > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:17 PM > To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money > > Hello, > > Yes. They are. And it effects so few of their customers, they don't > care. > Because the sad but true fact is, they don't want people with 0 > balances in their checking accounts or maxed out credit cards. And > like I said earlier, if you can't manage to have $1 in your account, you > have way bigger issues > than being able to update an app on your phone. So like you said > "welcome > to the real world." > > For the record, is it good customer service? Of course not. But, > when you buy a premium product, you often have to deal with stuff like > this. Like someone mentioned earlier, if you can afford to buy a > sports car, your probably not worrying about the price of gas. > > Ricardo Walker > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Tom, Studio > <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > so why tell me i can't upgrade programmes i have already bought > because i may have run out of money? for crying out loud ... ... .. > ... they've already been paid for!!!!! they are forcing you to have > money!!! > > Anthony D,. Tom > I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. > It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, > than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna > Goodin > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:45 AM > To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money > > Very good point, Ricardo. > Donna > On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever > method of > payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were > being denied access to? If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on > a form of payment is unreasonable. I figure if this is your last > dollar to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting > free apps > for your iPhone. > > JMO. > > Ricardo Walker > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I > have > fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish > college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not > that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get > my medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like > this. > Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that > unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit > or debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get > a gift card for $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've > done that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps > you need to do. I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole > ****** life. Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least > it's a job. If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about > how to > change that. > > Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone > who is > blind has to be on a fixed income. > Donna > On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes. > For > example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I > should still be able to get free apps, download apps I already > purchased but are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar > appointments. > Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the > lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until > their > or is money available. > Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as > requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo. > And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month > and > somehow don't qualify for food stamps. > Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker > <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in > your > bank account or not? > > Ricardo Walker > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a > free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if > you > don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you > run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password. > I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will > join me in this. 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