Na, DJ. Sorry but your dead wrong. Jaws is still number one. It still works best with most programs. Window Eyes still doesn't work with all MS Office software. Window Eyes users say their software works, but then, they describe how they navigate the likes of AdAware, and they mention 200 keystrokes to successfully complete one scan. In some programs, like for instance WinMX, they even have to search for some important buttons ... like, um, the OK button? I'm hearing also some horror stories regarding Window Eyes not reading the status of read and unread messages. And Window Eyes doesn't even work with MS Media Centre, while Jaws has worked with it since 6.0. I'm using a demo of Window Eyes right now and... oh darn Window Eyes has locked up.... Peter -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:24 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Window-Eyes VS Jaws - help? Wow! As somebody who's used JAWS for a number of years, (perhaps not as long as some), but I consider myself a fairly advanced user of the screnreader my advice is to stick to Window Eyes. I'm waiting on 5.5 being released and I'm making th eswitch. I'll still have JAWS and no doubt will use it from time to time but. Look at the product feature lists, look at what works and what doesn't, look at the customer service and tech support of |GWMICRO Vs Freedom Scientific. Look at past major releases of JAWS and Windoweyes. Who's released what, what's worked and what hasn't. What has been broke in JAWS? With each release of JAWS things are broke. Why? Because they're patching Ancient code over at Freedom. Look at JAW's download size now, what 52meg vs Window Eye's 12meg? That is what is known as bloatware. It's been a long time coming my own switch but I dont' see a successful future for JAWS. The only way out is if they do what Dolphin did. Strip it and re-write. However, I suspect for Freedom it would also take some internal re-focusing. I.E. away from profits and focused on what users want not what they think we should have with nonsense noises for website navigation. Personally I think it would be an awful move for anyone to switch to JAWS now. Dj Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shashi Gothivarekar" <shashi.g@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Access list" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Blindtech(List)" <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Help needed list" <Help_Needed_List@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:28 AM Subject: [access-uk] Window-Eyes VS Jaws - help? > Hi Guys, > I am a Window-Eyes user and have been over many years. Lately, I > am increasingly becoming aware of some serious shortcomings of it, > especially in the department of scripts for various applications. I am > therefore, seriously thinking of moving over to Jaws which, I realise > now, I should have done a long time ago as it appears to be the most > widely used screen reader by the blind community. Anyway better late > than never. My question now is, is there any way I can try Jaws, > before I fork out of hundreds of poundsfor it, and would the trial > version be fully functional? 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