George, according to the Toshiba User Manual my laptop has 4 memory slots which can hold up to 2 gigs of RAM. Whether this means they can take out the 256 MB of RAM I don't know, but I'm certain that, if I wanted to, I could upgrade to a whopping 2 gigs, but like you said if I'm limited financially I need to not only go with the cheapest but also go for what's comfortable. I'll just have to wait and see when I enquire about it this Wednesday. Thanks for all the help, greatly appreciated. On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:40:47 +0100, "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Hi Christopher, > > I can only speak from personal experience. XP Home is > abominably slow with 256 MB and prone to crashes. 512 MB > makes it fairly comfortable, but it can still be slow going > if you have MS Office applications running such as Outlook > along with Word and Excel, then throw in the odd download. > But if that's your financial limit, it will at least offer > you an improvement. > > However, you mentioned programming, and as you may or may > not know, compilers are memory hungry animals which need > plenty of elbow space. > > Unfortunately with laptops, you can often only fit one > memory module into them. If you then find you need more, > you have to replace what you have with a larger capacity > module, while the old part gathers dust. > > BTW, if you do go for a 1GB module, I think I'm right in > saying that you will end up with 1.25 GB, since the existing > 256 is usually on-board as opposed to a memory card. > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher > Hallsworth > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:31 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Upgrading memory question > > I hope this is my final question on this, but George you're > saying that > for both Windows XP and adaptive software I should have 1 > GB? The reason > why I'm asking this one is that my friend, who's also blind > and is on > this list, has a Toshiba Equium laptop running Windows XP > Home SP2 and > 512 MB of RAM and she can use her adaptive software, JAWS, > quite happily > without any performance issues. However, with my Toshiba > Satellite Pro > running Windows XP Home SP2 and 256 MB of RAM, my adaptive > software, > JAWS, runs fine, however there are a few performance issues, > particularly if I alt tab away from, say, my web browser, > and back. So > will upgrading to 512 MB/1 GB, in my case, resolve the > performance > issues? Thanks! > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:11:40 +0100, "George Bell" > <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > Hi Chris, > > > > Without the numbers after the A100, I can't be exact, but > it > > appears that 1 Gig of RAM should be around £30 - £35. > > > > I've generally considered 512 MB as being the basic > > requirement for XP, then add a factor for adaptive > software > > which is in use all the time. > > > > George. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher > > Hallsworth > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:57 AM > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Upgrading memory question > > > > Wow George, thanks for that! I'd love 1 GB of RAM, but do > I > > need it for > > things like programming and office work? Hmm, not sure. > > Anyway my laptop > > is a Toshiba Satellite Pro A100, and it runs slow but fine > > on 256 MB of > > RAM, hence the addition. Due to the fact that I'm going > with > > a carer who > > probably knows little to nothing about technology, I'd > > rather take it to > > PC World and get them to do it. Obviously if I had a > friend > > who I trust > > and knows about these things, fair enough, but at the > moment > > I don't > > sadly. Thanks for the advice though as well as the help, > > greatly > > appreciated. > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:16:31 +0100, "George Bell" > > <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > If you can afford it, go for more that just 256 extra. > > Not > > > sure what memory you require without knowing the model > of > > > laptop, but PC World are showing one type of memory at > £20 > > > for 512MB and just £32 for 1GB. > > > > > > You might also consider looking on the web for memory > and > > > having a sighted friend install it. For example, even > > with > > > PC World, they have some laptop memory which is £69.99 > > from > > > the web, and yet costs £85.99 in store. Then you have > to > > > pay them to fit it. > > > > > > George. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Christopher > > > Hallsworth > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:53 AM > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Upgrading memory question > > > > > > Thanks George for the help, greatly appreciated. Looking > > > forward to my > > > additional RAM now! > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:32:27 +0100, "George Bell" > > > <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > > > If, as with my Toshiba Satellite, the User's Manual > > > explains > > > > how to add extra memory, then Toshiba would be on very > > > shaky > > > > ground if they turned round later and said that doing > > what > > > > the manual said invalidated the warranty. > > > > > > > > As regards memory, no problems there with recovery > CD's, > > > > etc., although there is a chance that your screen > > reader, > > > > and a remote possibly some other software, might need > to > > > be > > > > re-activated. The kind of software which is usually > > > > affected is that which takes a footprint of your > system > > to > > > > generate a unique code, which in turn is passed on to > > the > > > > software house in order to obtain an activation code. > > > > > > > > So basically, I suggest you don't have it installed at > a > > > > time when you won't be able to contact someone to get > > your > > > > software re-activated. > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > Christopher > > > > Hallsworth > > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:23 AM > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Upgrading memory question > > > > > > > > Oh, that's absolutely fantastic! so the recovery disk > > only > > > > checks the > > > > motherboard then or what? Anyhow that's great to know, > > > > thanks for the > > > > help. I'm going into PC World this Wednesday anyway to > > > look > > > > at some > > > > computer chairs, so shall ask then. Thanks once again. > > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:54:50 +0100, "Dj Paddy" > > > > <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > said: > > > > > Hi Chris. > > > > > > > > > > No idea on the first one. > > > > > > > > > > I suspect not, but ring the store and ask PC World > and > > > > before hand. > > > > > > > > > > Your second question, nope you won't need to buy new > > XP > > > > the recovery will > > > > > work just fine. > > > > > > > > > > RAM's very low level yes, but an extra stick isn't > > going > > > > to do anyharm in > > > > > terms of activating. Which I think is what you > where > > > > implying you are > > > > > concerned about? > > > > > > > > > > If it's just the recovery software side then it > won't > > > care > > > > if there's > > > > > more > > > > > or less RAM. > > > > > > > > > > Dj Paddy > > > > > Keeping in touch with me: > > > > > > > > > > Twitter Username- dj_paddy > > > > > > > > > > Twitter RSS- > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline/4871941.rss > > > > > > > > > > BLOG RSS- > > > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/irishgeek > > > > > > > > > > Email/msn contact: djpaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Skype: djpaddy > > > > > > > > > > My websites are mainly used for jumping off > platforms, > > > > they are > > > > > > > > > > http://www.djpaddy.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > http://www.barry-toner.co.uk > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" > > > > <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:50 AM > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Upgrading memory question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > During my summer holidays I'm planning to take my > > > laptop > > > > to my local PC > > > > > > World to have some additional memory, so that I've > > got > > > > 512 MB instead of > > > > > > the original 256 MB. However, I have a couple of > > > > questions that I'd like > > > > > > you to help me if you can please. > > > > > > 1. Since I'm taking it to the said shop, will this > > > void > > > > my 3-year > > > > > > warranty that I applied for through Toshiba? > > > > > > 2. Since I'm adding hardware, will the recovery > disk > > > > that came with my > > > > > > laptop fail to work, thus forcing me to buy a > > Windows > > > XP > > > > CD? > > > > > > Thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you. > > > > > > Christopher Hallsworth > > > > > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > > > > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > > link:- > > > ** > > > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ** and in the Subject line type > > > ** unsubscribe > > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click > on > > the > > > ** immediately-following link:- > > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > > ** or send a message, to > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- > faq > > > > > Christopher Hallsworth > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > > link:- > > ** > > > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > > the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > Christopher Hallsworth > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > Christopher Hallsworth E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype name chrishallsworth7266 MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq