Alex, the unpaid for version I refered to was probably downloaded from the following BBC source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/audiohelp_install.shtml On the web generally I found two other sources at: http://uk.real.com/home/ http://www.download-it-free.com/real%5Fplayer/ The RealAudio UK site seems to make every effort to make you download the premium version. The BBC site does start a download, although when you install it I think you have to go through all the rigmerole of tellling them about yourself. To be honest its a long time since I've done this so I cannot quite recall the process I went through then. You end up by not paying anything, eventually, but its a hassel. Real Alternative, which is on Tom Laurimer's Whitestick site., is freely downloadable from there. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Alexander Shannon Sent: 22 May 2006 15:05 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RealPlayer Hi Ray, Just a quick couple of questions regarding your last message on this subject. When you refer to "the unpaid for version" are you referring to real alternative, or another version of Realplayer? If you are referring to a second version of Realplayer, where can one download it from please? I'm jjust curious. Alexander Shannon ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq