[access-uk] Re: RealPlayer
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:43:08 +0100
Well Douglas, I'm by no means a technical type, but I am sure that the Real
Player Engine is being used to play the streams on Listen Again, and the
interface is just that, a sort of skin, but with an important difference.
This interface between Real Player - or Real Alternative if that's being
used - also disables the standard seeking ability in Real Player so that
flexible skipping to pick up parts of music or any copyright sensitive
material, is made tedious - but not impossible - by this arrangement.
I'm sure from the preceding discussion that if Real Alternative is being
used, this restriction of movement ability is also in place. An example of
this would be such shows as, say, Sounds of the Sixties, available as Listen
Again, but with the crippled seeking abilities.
Having said all of this, I am sure some resourceful people have found ways
around the Beeb's scheme. I believe some software even allows downloading
of Real Streams, thus by-passing the necessity to listen in real time to
record a stream. Somehow, the software reaches the real streaming URL - not
the pointer to it - to enable this to happen. This is no doubt not just
dubious, but downright illegal. It'll be interesting to see what happens
with this sort of program.
From Ray
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Douglas Harrison
Sent: 22 May 2006 12:05
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RealPlayer
Ray,
I must admit that when I installed Real Alternative I was not very
optimistic about the BBC, but it seems to work.
Looking at Real Alternative on my system I see that in addition to
Media player Classic it contains over 2 mb of Codecs and almost 6 mb
of plug-ins.
I don't really understand this embedded audio technique but I have my
doubts as to whether MPC actually plays the audio. I rather imagine
that to do so the site needs to use codecs/plug-ins installed on the
system.
If anyone is able to give us a layman's guide as to how these sites
work it would be very helpful. Is the BBC Player actually a Player
or just an interface?
Douglas
On 22 May 2006 at 9:40, Ray's Home wrote:
> Thanks for your input on this Sandra and Douglas.
>
> I think though we should get clear what happens if you install Real
> Alternative with the BBC streams, which I'm interested in. With Listen
> Again you do indeed get the choice of using Real stand alone, but only if
> the Listen Again stream doesn't carry with it the music interest
copyright
> nobling of streams where you can skip forward by 5 or fifteen minute
> increments, but not back. Its all laughable Really! (Pun not entirely
> unintended!
>
> So, lets get this clear. On such nobbled streams I presume the
BBC Player
> is the only interface that can be used. I'm guessing from what
Sandra and
> Douglas tell us that Real Alternative is doing the 'playing' of
the files,
> but the dreaded Beeb custom interface is not to be escaped, even if you
> are using Real Alternative. Obviously, you can get away from it in cases
> where music isn't a substantial part of the program.
>
> So, unless I've got this wrong, I assume Real Alternative is a partial
> liberation only from the Beeb interface, and a total liberation where
> streams aren't obliged to use the Beeb interface.
>
> From Ray
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