[access-uk] Re: Problem with list
- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:27:39 +0100
hi tracey et al, i agree. it's hard enough to get people to alter subject
lines as it is (i'm co-owner/moderator of the blindgamers list and so i know
what i'm talking about!). personally i like george's idea of moderating new
members. i don't know the ins and outs on freelists. but, on the blindgamers
list (which is on yahoogroups) all new members are automatically set on
moderated status until their first few messages have been vetted. they are
then taken off moderated status. and we've not had a single spammer and the
like on the list for months. not, in fact, since this decision was put into
action. if the current moderators feel they don't have time to keep an eye
on such new members, then surely appointing an extra person to do this job
isn't to hard? the blindgamers list has over 220 members and it really
doesn't take up much time to vet the odd message. i doubt there are actually
that many members joining each week! just my thoughts on this.
email or msn
kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
cheers - kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracey Kier" <tracey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Problem with list
Hi Steve. Sorry, but I'd have to vote no on this one. For one thing, it
relies on people remembering to do it, and I'd be as bad as the next person
at doing that, particularly as I'm on a whole bunch of lists and would more
than likely forget that I had to include my name in the subject line for
this one. Also, subject lines aren't actually that long, so by the time
you've put your name in there, and then tried to add something concise to
let other list members know what your query relates to, it's likely you're
going to run out of room, or not going to be able to give a good enough idea
of your query to get constructive help from the list. Personally, I'd rather
run the risk of having my e-mail address spammed than have to remember to
put my name in every subject line. Not to mention how complicated it's going
to get if you're replying to someone's message, either having to take their
name out and pput yours in, or ending up leaving out the part of the subject
line that relates to the query. Just my two cents, and obviously I'll go
along with the majority view. Tracey.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Dryden" <sdryden@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Problem with list
> George, the idea is pretty good. I wonder what you guys might think about
keeping it but just add your name in the subject heading?
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:40 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Problem with list
>
>
> OK. I hold my hands up here. My fault. Let me
> try and explain.
>
> The change had actually been made with good
> intentions, and in all of your interests. The
> idea of not displaying the Sender's address was to
> try and prevent e-mail address harvesting programs
> (known collectively as "Robots") from collecting
> all of your addresses, for the purpose of adding
> them to spamming lists.
>
> The alternative is to have to approve each
> application for membership in an effort to ensure
> such robots don't join for a short period, and
> then leave after collecting the data they want.
> However, this would just make the joining process
> more tedious, and cause the moderators too much
> extra work.
>
> However, clearly you all don't like this change,
> so it's back as it was.
>
> George Bell.
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> ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:-
> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ** and in the Subject line type
> ** vacation ## d
> ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days.
> ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to
> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
> ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:-
> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ** and in the Subject line type
> ** vacation ## d
> ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days.
> ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to
> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
>
** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:-
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** vacation ## d
** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days.
** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:-
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** vacation ## d
** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days.
** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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