To have different shapes might be an added advantage in that we could then use the shape to determine, for instance, male from female artist in our CD collection. However or quick ways of finding the white shirt from the blue shirt. However, I do think that there are organisational ways around such things in that we could simply stack or rack such CD's in different places and sew the shaped buttons on garments. I would guess that there would be a price implication in having different shapes, so my feeling is to go with one shape. Now, as for the shape, that would depend on the way that the label is read. Can it be read at any orientation or does the PenFriend need to read it 'the right way up'? If the latter, then the shape needs to be such that it is easy to determine which way up the label is. Cheers Barry _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Sent: 11 October 2009 6:21 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] PenFriend Update Hello Everyone, We are in the process of defining the spec for our PenFriend magnetic labels. These are for use with tins obviously as well as things like sticking on the fridge for messages or other appliances to remind you what knobs to press. So we are interested in your views as prospective customers. You can send comments privately to me or Alison of course but we'd quite like to see a debate develop where ideas and concerns can be bounced around on the list. We would be interested in basic things like size and shape. How big should they ideally be and would there be any benefit in having a specific shape or range of shapes or sizes? how many recordings you might want to put onto one label and anything else you want to say about them. This is not a scientific survey and we will be using other means to hear from other potential customers but the folks on this list have always been very creative with suggestions for the Penfriend and you don't just tell us you are grateful for anything we offer you. Believe it or not we like customers who challenge us because that's how things get improved. Our supplier has told us we should get our first sew on label samples for the laundry in a couple of weeks from China.We'll let you know when they get here. John