Yes, I think the facts around visual impairment and blindness are pretty well established and HMSO has been mentioned, and within their publications the oldish OPCS survey for one has lots of relvevant info. RNIB itself has done quite a few surveys and reports over the years too. In Touch will have ready access to these sources and other material. Interesting that, as far as I know, RNIB doesnt have a very accurate idea of how many Braille readers there are in the UK. That's particularly relevant to death-blind people and I believe I recall one or two features In Touch has done around deaf-blindess in the not too distant past. I say, and with no great enthusiasm, that In Touch might be right to be mindful of older people and those who are not into I T. I think the programme is going to have to address such issues as the more rapid move to digital media. Reluctant many maybe to make the move, but nonetheless reports on addressing this issue by inovations in computer tech, training, and national and local initiatives, will make for interesting features which I hope we'll hear something of soon. My little contribution to the Sight Village thread was motivated by such an interest. I must say the programme stil has an air of blind welfare department about it, at least to me, but maybe I'm not getting old gracefully enough! From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf The facts and statistics are all available in an HMSO Publication. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby Sent: 24 July 2006 17:30 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village Ian says: "Fact, the vast majority of people over 65 have no independent income and live on their state pension. Fact, While it's true that some older people have embraced technology, the vast majority simply don't get or haven't had the opportunity. Fact, the vast majority of people of that age who lose their sight have things more central to their lives to worry about than computers like using their electric kettle safely, feeding themselves, getting out and avoiding isolation. Finally what evidence do you have to the contrary?" Non, that is why I am not making unproven assumptions. There is no proof all of the above it true, just as there is no proof that all of the above is false. But anyway this is going off topic and is more suitable for a political debating list. Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq