OK guys, I've kept quiet long enough. First of all, I started Sight Village some 12 years ago, so I do have some insight into what it's all about. Second, from almost day one, BBC's In Touch have telephoned round exhibitors asking what they have that is new or interesting. This does not stop any dealer contacting In Touch directly. Third, In Touch have taken a lot of flack for covering the event "after the event". This time they decided to do a piece on the Tuesday, leaving the undecided an opportunity to come to Sight Village on the Wednesday or Thursday. The majority of exhibitors are usually contacted a week or more BEFORE the event, and are asked if they could do an interview of any new or interesting products. In sheer practical terms, I personally would not expect an In Touch reporter to go haring round the country beforehand interviewing around 100 dealers. Not to mention the fact that many representatives come from abroad and don't arrive until the week of Sight Village. The bottom line is that BBC's Sunil Peck ran around Sight Village on the Monday like a headless chicken, trying to gather enough material, such that it could be edited on Tuesday, and ready for a Tuesday evening program. Many exhibitors just didn't know how to keep appointments, so missed out on even the possibility that their interview would be broadcast, however brief. The net result was probably better than any of us could have done in the circumstances. If any of you think you could have done better, then get your C.V. out and send it to Peter White or Ian Macrae, and we'll see just how well you do with a digital tape recorder and an absolute deadline. And if you want some outside of the BBC views, ask Brian Hartgen what it's like. Even he will admit that he didn't have to meet a program deadline time. George Bell. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie Sent: 24 July 2006 19:32 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village David, I think it's worth pointing out that of the people who were interviewed one was actually at Sight Village, one was definitely in favour and I was only really against in the sense that I didn't think it was worth the not inconsiderable effort and expenditure of holiday days and money in getting there. While we do have exhibitions in Scotland, we never get the big hitters from the likes of Freedom Scientific or GW Micro we would if Sight Village occasionally visited us. I'm sure the same could be said of other regions of the UK. Where I think the programme fell down was in Peter White allowing his views of Sight Village and exhibitions of its type to come to the fore more than I think was strictly necessary for a presenter as opposed to a contributor. I would also say that it wasn't absolutely clear that Sunil had recorded his piece the day before. If all one had to go on was the programme, one would have been left with the impression that a visit to Sight Village was like a visit to some kind of bedlam, especially as the last words about it were 'chaos' and 'madness'. Iain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village Ian, I fully accept your points, and personally would have preferred a considered report on SV the following week. There is no particular need to have it while the exhibition is taking place. Of course you have many things to cover, and not enough time to cover all that should be covered, and it is impossible to please everyone. My point really was that the negative views expressed by people who were not there could have been expressed at any time on any In Touch programme. Of course you are working to a tight schedule, but I am still of the opinion that SV deserved more coverage than it in fact got. But you might surprise me and devote the whole of this week's show to technology, but thereagain, you might not. I know Ian that you are as interested in the technological side as any of us, indeed you are the In Touch techy expert, so any criticisms from me are not directed at you personally. we really do need more than twenty minutes per week. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 24 July 2006 11:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village David, it's simply not possible to comprehensively cover everything new at SV. For one thing the event opened on the Tuesday. Our reporter was there on the Monday when people were setting up because he would not have been able to gather the material, edit it and send it down for the recording on the Tuesday. This meant that many of the exhibitors simply didn't have the kit to hand. Some of them were therefore talking off the top on the basis of what they could remember about individual products. Others appeared to know little or nothing and resorted to reading marketing blurb off product websites. As you can imagine, this didn't make either for particularly good radio or accurate journalism. As far as possible, when I have anything to do with the inclusion of technical items in the show, I work on the basis that reviews should be based on as thorough an evaluation as possible. Clearly it's not possible for a reporter to get hold of a piece of new equipment at SV and give it a thorough going over for the wireless. Finally, technology, like sport, is something which as many people tune out from as in to. Cheers now. Ian -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Russell Sent: 23 July 2006 08:23 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village I am with Carol on this one. Not sure how much time was spent on last week's In touch about the Exhibition, although I did listen. there were a few very brief comments, mainly about PDAs and the rest of the item was talking to people who were not there about why they did not go? They could have done that on another week and given more time to what was exhibited and to talk to people who attended. It does appear strange that In Touch always tries to seek out new equipment, and when it all appears in one convenient place, they show little interest. If half as much time were taken up with techy equipment as is expended on guide dogs, then there would be more3 of a balance. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 23 July 2006 06:08 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village Doris, I think you may not quite understand what I'm saying here. I'm talking about those who don't yet know enough about computers and the internet to even be interested in podcatching. There are also plenty of other items in the exhibition which are not specifically hi-tech and it's these that they certainly ought to be talking about. -- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village > if you go to > > http://accessibleworld.org/show.php?contentid=43 > > you will find an archive on listening to and making podcasts that you > can either listen to online or download to your computer to listen to > at your convenience. > > there are several accessible podcatcher programs available and with > most you can also just download the mp3 and listen to them with the > media player of your choice. > > hth > > Doris > > > > At 11:34 PM 7/22/2006 +0100, you wrote: > >>Damon, >> >>With respect, still only comparatively few of us use computers on the >>Internet and are sufficiently up to speed to go and get podcasts. >>It's surely very important that the biggest and best exhibition of the >>year should be covered well and as fully as possible for those who >>just don't, for one reason and another, have this access as yet. I >>didn't hear "In Touch" but, if indeed it was only a five minute >>coverage, I'd have been very disappointed. >> >>-- >>Carol >>carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:03 PM >>Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village >> >> >>>To be fair about the In Touch coverage, it went out on the first day >>>of the exhibition. The reporter turned up the day before it all >>>started and grabbed some of the more headline new items being >>>displayed, proper in order to get something on air quickly. In Touch >>>usually puts out reports the week after Sight Village, a >>>retrospective report. Doing it this way round meant that people could >>>listen to the show and may also then be able to pay a trip to Sight >>>Village themseles. So this has an added benefit to all exhibitors >>>whether their products and services were mentioned or not. >>> >>>Hope this helps ... no one is ever really happy with the coverage no >>>matter how it's done or by who. >>> >>>It should also be noted that the coverage from the online blind >>>community is getting bigger and better. When it comes to niche >>>content, the internet is the best platform and is also interactive - >>>a 20 minute weekly radio show can only act as a small window onto what's going on. >>> >>>...Damon >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen" >>><brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Cc: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 2:21 PM >>>Subject: [access-uk] More Sight Village >>> >>> >>>>Hi >>>> >>>>For some reason, some of our posts to the Sight Village podcast are >>>>not being picked up by the Juice podcatching client and at the >>>>moment I have no idea why that is. >>>> >>>>We have some posts being uploaded which you may like to grab, >>>>including the presentation from Clarence Whaley of GW Micro and our >>>>discussion of the appalling coverage of Sight Village in last >>>>Tuesday's In Touch programme! >>>> >>>>While I am getting the podcast difficulty figured out, you can go to >>>>the Blog as the items definitely are downloadable from there. 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