[access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling sapi5 voices

  • From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 13:47:10 -0000

Great, thanks for that tip.

I won't need system restore hopefully ...

Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling sapi5
voices


Hi Carol, the only restriction is that the trial will
only restore within the trial period. Remember, if you're
running system restore the restore data will increase the
volume, so, given that the DVD would be your backup turn
off system restore before you image, then, if you really
                   want system restore you can enable it
again when you restore. John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling sapi5
voices


Great, John.

Are there any restrictions placed on the trial?  I mean,
can you actually image and get your system restored, or
does it just show you what happens, somehow?

Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling sapi5
voices


Hi Carol, you only need one copy. I don't think number
of pc's is an issue, although having said that I
currently only have it on two, but I really don't think
                   it matters. John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling
sapi5 voices


Yeah.  That is fine.

Can you use it for more than one machine or do you have
to purchase more than one copy?

Think I must bite the bullet this time around.

Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:50 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling
sapi5 voices


Hi Carol, the number of disks depends on how much
stuff you've got on the disk or partition you want to
image. Because I don't use my C drive for storage I
can image onto one DVD. You could use CD's, but you'd
use a lot more, and the more disks the image is split
over the longer it takes and the messier it is. If
you can get everything onto a single DVD it's easy
                   both to create and to restore. An
important factor to bear in mind is that at boot time you'd have no
speech. John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:33 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling
sapi5 voices


John,

Does this only work using DVD's and not CD's and how
many DVD's have you used on each image?

Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling
sapi5 voices


Hi Andy, it's better than system restore in every
respect. Firstly, system restore only restores
system, not programmes, as far as I'm aware, secondly,
system restore is extremely vulnerable to nasties. Even if
you manage amazingly to keep system restore free of
nasties there's no guarantee that the restore data
is in perfect condition, and thirdly, in the event of a
disk failure system restore won't be much good to
 you. I've never had any time for it, I don't use
it, in fact when I built my unattended I edited system restore out.
With an image of your C drive you'll have a total backup
                   that no virus or nasty can
invade or corrupt, which, should anything go wrong you can
boot with and have your
pc back up and running again. John.


----- Original Message -----
From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling
sapi5 voices


Hi John - Yep, I'll take a look. Just wondering
what it's advantage is over say system restore?
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was uninstalling
sapi5 voices


Hi Andy, yes, as long as the system was fine at
the point you made the image. It's well worth you
looking at. I'd be surprised if you didn't take
to it. I think the trial's a month, and if you
                   like it it's only around 40
quid to buy. John. ----- Original Message -----
From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was
uninstalling sapi5 voices


Hi John - So for example, at the moment, every
time I boot up, I get an error message that a
certain dll file couldn't be found/loaded. If I
had an image of the drive where my OS system resides, from what
you say I could just run the image dvd, and all would
be restored? -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 5:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was
uninstalling sapi5 voices


Hi Andy, that's exactly what it is, a snapshot.
When your system messes up just put in the DVD
and half an hour later you're back to how you
were. It's a wonderful bit of software. It's
                   saved me literally days of
reloading time. John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was
uninstalling sapi5 voices


John - Thanks for this. Still a bit in the fog
however! Under what kind of circumstances would
one want to image? What does imaging do? I kind
of imagine it takes a snap shot of say a
selected drive, so a kind of back up system
that presumably is faster and takes up less
space than an actual back up. Am I on the
right lines? Thanks -

Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:29 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was
uninstalling sapi5 voices


Hi Andy, I image with Image For Windows. It's
made by Terabyte unlimited.
It's fully jaws friendly, at least as far as
making the image goes. As for
restoring it's simple if the image has been
burned to DVD, but if the image
is saved to another drive you'd need sighted
assistance. There is, in theory, a way to get
speech feedback when restoring from another
drive, but it involves making an image for
linux recovery CD, and requires an external
speech synth, so it's not worth considering,
unless you happen to have an
external speech synth.
 If you've imaged onto DVD it's just a case of
booting with the DVD, then waiting for about
half a minute and pressing y, this being in
answer to the question Do you want to
continue? That's all there is to it. It restores the image and
 ejects the DVD, after which you press enter a
couple of times and the pc reboots. The link
to Image For Windows is
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/ifw_en_trial.exe
John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ANDY COLLINS"
<Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Imageing, was
uninstalling sapi5 voices


Hi John -

I've never used imageing as a tool. sounds
like it is some kind of back up
to protect data ahead of making changes? Can
you tell me where this tool
resides, or perhaps it has to be acquired?
and what it actually does?
Maybe off list unless others are interested
too.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley"
<johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:42 PM 
Subject: [access-uk] uninstalling sapi5
voices


Hi everybody, I've had the Daniel voice on
my pc ever since buying it
several years ago. Since then I've installed
and subsequently uninstalled
other sapi5 voices, and, with one exception
 they uninstalled fine. I decided to
uninstall Daniel. Everything seemed to go
fine, but I then found that SAPI5 didn't
 work, not even Microsoft Sam. I ran SFC,
and when that didn't help I reinstalled
 SAPI5. Still no joy. I'd imaged before
trying to uninstall, so I was able to get
things back to how they had been, but I haven't got a
clue how to get rid of Daniel.
I need to uninstall before I install another
one, as I want to keep my
image down to a single DVD. If I install
more voices without getting rid
of Daniel first it goes over.
 I can only think that the uninstaller isn't
up to the job, and is possibly taking files
                   it shouldn't. Anybody
got any ideas? John.

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