[access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth?

  • From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:22:09 +0100

All I'm concerned about is that credit justly goes where it is 
due.

I'll confess to not having seen the article mentioned as I do not 
subscribe to New Beacon.  If it is as mis-leading as has been 
implied then at the very least the record should be put straight. 
'Truth' is a tricky thing, I know, but I cannot muster the 
sophestry to reason my way to believing that RNIB has done us all 
a great favour, if that's what they are claiming.

AS Daman says, it would be interesting to know how many VI people 
buy this radio, and from where.  I shall be buying one in due 
course just as soon as money allows.
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:16 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth?


Does this whole thing just hang on the word 'launch' though? 
Could the case
be a case of semantics?

Does not launch just mean 'start' or 'begin'.  And as far as RNIB 
is
concerned, it is a new product they have added to their 
catalogue.  In the
context of RNIB, then, this is a launch isn't it?

Does this not overlap with the argument that RNIB's mite and 
money allows it
to trump small businesses run by visually impaired people?  Isn't 
this the
real argument today?  The straw that broke the camel's back?

Interested to hear thoughts and it'd be completely fascinating 
if, for this
one rather amazing and long awaited product, we were abel to get 
hold of
figures to see how many have been sold and through which company? 
And,
perhaps more importantly, is it possible to measure or guestimate 
how many
visually impaired people have bought this product?  In order to 
build a case
for blind spending power in the future?

...Damon










----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth?


So why not take the case up with the Advertising Standards
Authority!

George.

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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home
Sent: 01 April 2005 05:38
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth?


Ian.  No, defenitely NO.  Such dishonest utterances by RNIB
are pure drivel.  The credit rests with Pure, and this list,
I would say, for this radio appearing.

True, RNIB have campaigned for accessability of products,
but this New Beacon proclamation is damn lies.
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Iain Lackie
<mailto:ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:10 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Economical With The Truth?

Hello,
I have just been looking at the current issue of New
Beacon and in the New Products and Consumer news section
there is a piece about the Pure Digital Sonus-1Xt. Having
eulogised about its features, we read the sentence, 'All of
this, and much more, is available now from the latest
product launched by RNIB. My dictionary tells me that one of
the meanings of 'launch' is ''To bring (a new product) on to
the market, especially with promotions and publicity'. This
product may be new to the RNIB catalogue, but can they
really be said to have launched it? Was the radio really
available from RNIB before anyone else? Can RNIB take any
real credit for this product? It is I am sure  agood thing
that RNIB is selling the product, but, unless I am mistaken
(and this is very  likely to be the case), Can RNIB in any
truly meaningful sense claim to have launched it?

Iain.




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