Hi For those who might be be looking for a Sonas There was something from another list in the last edition of Access IT magazine.There are some factory refurbished Sonas being sold for around £50 at the following link. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132776 I already had one, and am not sure how many they have left, but would recommend the model to anyone who would ask. Matt -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darran Ross Sent: 04 December 2007 11:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info I was pleased to see that the Sonus was being sold on QVC. I had hoped that this kind of exposure to the mainstream would have led to improved sales and more development of the product, and others like it. Alas, I was being more than a little optimistic. The Sonus was my first experience with a DAV radio and apart from anything else, I find the quality of the sound to be extremely good! I know, this has nothing to do with anything, but I would have liked the option to buy further products that sound as good, with the help that the added speech offers us. Darran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info | Chris, she's a Mrs. Definitely. (smile). | | Jackie | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:10 AM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info | | | > Hi, I have the Sonus myself, hence the tip about reading the text display. | > The voice I use, however, is Mrs or Miss Sonus, not sure <smiles>. | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM | > Subject: [access-uk] Access to DAB info | > | > | >> Hi Ray | >> | >> I've adjusted the subject line to suit this topic more aptly as you | >> hinted (smile). | >> | >> I think it's a great pity that Pure, and anyone studying what they did | >> with the Sonus, didn't take it further. The voices are very good, my | >> preference being Mr Sonus, and I think they could have done a lot more | >> with their more integrated hi-fi systems where menu access is crucial and | >> only got at by cycling through various modes. While I'm not a lover of | >> their products, apart from the little Move radio which I think is ace, I | >> thought they had tapped into a market that I would have expected to be | >> warmly received. | >> | >> It's not as if the Sonus was particularly over-priced anyway compared to | >> say the Dualit, which is expensive but oh so superior anyway. | >> | >> Having used radio all my life, it's not that I want it to tell me every | >> move I make. I just feel that there is a lot of info on the display that | >> I'd like to tap into, like song names and artists, and some of the menu | >> functions. | >> | >> Oh well, a golden opportunity missed perhaps? | >> | >> Jackie | >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:40 PM | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >> | >> | >>> Jackie, I'm sure I've heard that, indeed, Pure aren't going to update | >>> the Sonus. Not only that, but they were disappointed at the low | >>> take-up of the Sonus. The same happened I believe with the Netgem | >>> Box. | >>> | >>> I think It isn't just the limitations of the audio tagging idea in | >>> these products; it's as much to do with few of us wanting to pay any | >>> sort of premium for an accessible product even though that premium is | >>> nothing like the stratospheric realms of the Portset. The idea that | >>> RNIB and others had of a market willing and ready to buy just didn't | >>> hold water. | >>> | >>> Not that things couldn't have been done differently, and an overlap | >>> with the in-car market for this sort of talking DAB product does look | >>> like a missed opportunity . | >>> | >>> What chance of the parallel idea of an interface to take, say, an SD | >>> card add-on? Yes, I know these card formats like so many things | >>> change, but then so do the product lines of Pure and their likes. I | >>> do think this idea should be a goer, but where's the impetus for | >>> funding development of some sort of standard? | >>> | >>> Oh, and what's so wrong with changing the subject lines of threads | >>> like this? As so often, we've drifted considerably. | >>> | >>> Cheers, | >>> | >>> From Ray | >>> I can be contacted off-list at: | >>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx | >>> | >>> | >>> -----Original Message----- | >>> Jackie Cairns | >>> | >>> Chris, yes I know it does. But that drives me up the wall because by | >>> the | >>> time you've got it to spell a line of text, the display has changed. | >>> I | >>> don't think Pure are going to do anything else to that radio, which is | >>> a | >>> pity. Like all things that use a tagging system, they outdate very | >>> quickly. | >>> | >>> Jackie | >>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:50 AM | >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >>> | >>> | >>>> Hi, the Pure Sonus 1 XT does, but only by pressing and holding the | >>> info | >>>> button, and only then the recorded voice will spell out the text | >>> rather | >>>> than read it word by word. Wish they'd improve on that, but there | >>> you go. | >>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:20 PM | >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >>>> | >>>> | >>>>> Hi Wendy | >>>>> | >>>>> The Netgem box no longer provides accurate channel names of some | >>>>> stations. This is because it was originally tagged to speak certain | >>>>> channel names, and updates have caused its tagging system to go | >>>>> out-of-date. But since I don't watch much TV other than news and | >>> sport, | >>>>> it doesn't affect me. | >>>>> | >>>>> I am curious to know, however, whether the Media Centre from | >>> Portset you | >>>>> mention you have lets you find out the name of a song on a DAB | >>> station | >>>>> using the text system. Lots of stations now show the names of the | >>> track | >>>>> they are playing, and I wonder if you can find out that info on the | >>>>> Centre? | >>>>> | >>>>> Jackie | >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>>> From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:53 PM | >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >>>>> | >>>>> | >>>>>>I think there were some dots in the URL which should be slashes. | >>> Try: | >>>>>> | >>>>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment/index.html | >>>>>> | >>>>>> This gives details of TV's with audio description and the Logic | >>> and | >>>>>> Portset | >>>>>> equipment. The Logic is very cheap from Curries, but it doesn't | >>> talk, | >>>>>> so | >>>>>> not much use to anyone who can't see the screen. A pity Netgem | >>> have | >>>>>> stopped | >>>>>> making their set top box. | >>>>>> Wendy | >>>>>> | >>>>>> -----Original Message----- | >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | >>> Behalf | >>>>>> Of | >>>>>> David W Wood | >>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:46 | >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Hi Gordon: | >>>>>> | >>>>>> The full URL doesn't work, with an audio error message from the | >>> page. | >>>>>> Also saying something about one colour to go back, and another | >>> continue. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes does work however. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> David | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> -----Original Message----- | >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | >>> Behalf | >>>>>> Of | >>>>>> Gordon Keen | >>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:38 | >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>> Cc: Gordon Keen | >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Strange, safari went straight to it and I've just browsed through | >>> the | >>>>>> models available. | >>>>>> World wide weirdness! | >>>>>> Cheers | >>>>>> G | >>>>>> From glorious Devon, England. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 12:26, David W Wood wrote: | >>>>>> | >>>>>>> Hi Gordon - this link gives: | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> This page is not available | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> David | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- | >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | >>>>>>> Behalf Of | >>>>>>> Gordon Keen | >>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:16 | >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>>> Cc: Gordon Keen | >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Hi | >>>>>>> For alternatives check out: | >>>>>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment.index.html | >>>>>>> Hopefully competition will force down prices in the not too | >>> distant | >>>>>>> future. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Cheers | >>>>>>> G | >>>>>>> From glorious Devon, England. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 11:03, Jackie Cairns wrote: | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> My only comment, and please feel free to jump on me if you want | >>>>>>> folks (though not literally) (smile), is that it's a rip-off for | >>>>>>> £620 or | >>>>>>> whatever it costs. I know it speaks, but £620 for that? Phew! | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> I loved their Talking Teletext unit when I had mine, but that was | >>>>>>> when there wasn't so much information available elsewhere. | >>> Certain | >>>>>>> Freeview | >>>>>>> boxes, while they don't provide speech navigation, do offer Audio | >>>>>>> Description, and there are also lots of DAISY players on the | >>> market | >>>>>>> to tap | >>>>>>> into. I just think it's well OTT. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Jackie | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>>>>> From: sue morgan <mailto:sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:35 AM | >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Portset. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Hi list. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> I've been reading about the Portset Accessible Freeview | >>>>>>> Receiver and I'm quite interested in it. I'm wondering if anyone | >>> on | >>>>>>> this | >>>>>>> list has one, or knows anything about them. I've listened to the | >>>>>>> audio demo | >>>>>>> on the Portset website and it seems very accessible. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Any feedback would be grate as I'd love to have an | >>>>>>> accessible freeview receiver. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Sue. | >>>>>>> e-mail sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>>> mobile 07968825286 | >>>>>>> msn sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>>> skype suemorgan1006 | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Gordon Keen | >>>>>>> gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. | >>>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. | >>>>>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: | >>>>>>> 01/12/2007 | >>>>>>> 12:05 | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. | >>>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. | >>>>>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: | >>>>>>> 01/12/2007 | >>>>>>> 12:05 | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | >>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | >>>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type | >>>>>>> ** unsubscribe | >>>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | >>>>>>> ** immediately-following link:- | >>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | >>>>>>> ** or send a message, to | >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | >>>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Gordon Keen | >>>>>> gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> ** and in the Subject line type | >>> ** unsubscribe | >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | >>> ** immediately-following link:- | >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | >>> ** or send a message, to | >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | >>> | >>> | >> | >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> ** and in the Subject line type | >> ** unsubscribe | >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | >> ** immediately-following link:- | >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | >> ** or send a message, to | >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | >> | > | > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ** and in the Subject line type | > ** unsubscribe | > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ** immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ** or send a message, to | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq