[access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:08:10 -0000
Presume Adrian you emailed Pure about accessability. Wonder if you
could give an email address?
I shall do a search, but I often find this sort of thing hard to track
down.
From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
Adrian Higginbotham
I wrote to them recently pointing out that as they now have many
cheaper products with equivalent or better functionality it would be
nice to see ivox on one of the newer machines especially those with
play from memory card, and time shift features. I got back a polite
but "no plans at present" type Email but with a promise to pass
feedback on to management. Maybe if a few more people sent similar
messages...
Adrian Higginbotham
Project manager: Learning services
Becta
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994.
Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 04 December 2007 11:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info
Hi Darran
At the time, I sent Pure some feedback, and tried to encourage them to
fit the Ivox speech into some of their other products that were more
menu driven. They were initially enthusiastic, saying they would
consider putting speech into products with bigger memory capacity.
But it never materialised.
It is still available at John Lewis and I think Simply Radios, but
most of the specialist market has gobbled it up. I never knew QVC did
it, and that kind of made me laugh because I could have imagined their
sales pitch.
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info
>I was pleased to see that the Sonus was being sold on QVC. I had
hoped that
> this kind of exposure to the mainstream would have led to improved
sales
> and
> more development of the product, and others like it. Alas, I was
being
> more
> than a little optimistic.
>
> The Sonus was my first experience with a DAV radio and apart from
anything
> else, I find the quality of the sound to be extremely good! I know,
this
> has
> nothing to do with anything, but I would have liked the option to
buy
> further products that sound as good, with the help that the added
speech
> offers us.
>
> Darran
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info
>
>
> | Chris, she's a Mrs. Definitely. (smile).
> |
> | Jackie
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:10 AM
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info
> |
> |
> | > Hi, I have the Sonus myself, hence the tip about reading the
text
> display.
> | > The voice I use, however, is Mrs or Miss Sonus, not sure
<smiles>.
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM
> | > Subject: [access-uk] Access to DAB info
> | >
> | >
> | >> Hi Ray
> | >>
> | >> I've adjusted the subject line to suit this topic more aptly as
you
> | >> hinted (smile).
> | >>
> | >> I think it's a great pity that Pure, and anyone studying what
they
> did
> | >> with the Sonus, didn't take it further. The voices are very
good, my
> | >> preference being Mr Sonus, and I think they could have done a
lot
> more
> | >> with their more integrated hi-fi systems where menu access is
crucial
> and
> | >> only got at by cycling through various modes. While I'm not a
lover
> of
> | >> their products, apart from the little Move radio which I think
is
> ace,
> I
> | >> thought they had tapped into a market that I would have
expected to
> be
> | >> warmly received.
> | >>
> | >> It's not as if the Sonus was particularly over-priced anyway
compared
> to
> | >> say the Dualit, which is expensive but oh so superior anyway.
> | >>
> | >> Having used radio all my life, it's not that I want it to tell
me
> every
> | >> move I make. I just feel that there is a lot of info on the
display
> that
> | >> I'd like to tap into, like song names and artists, and some of
the
> menu
> | >> functions.
> | >>
> | >> Oh well, a golden opportunity missed perhaps?
> | >>
> | >> Jackie
> | >> ----- Original Message -----
> | >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:40 PM
> | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>> Jackie, I'm sure I've heard that, indeed, Pure aren't going to
> update
> | >>> the Sonus. Not only that, but they were disappointed at the
low
> | >>> take-up of the Sonus. The same happened I believe with the
Netgem
> | >>> Box.
> | >>>
> | >>> I think It isn't just the limitations of the audio tagging
idea in
> | >>> these products; it's as much to do with few of us wanting to
pay
> any
> | >>> sort of premium for an accessible product even though that
premium
> is
> | >>> nothing like the stratospheric realms of the Portset. The
idea that
> | >>> RNIB and others had of a market willing and ready to buy just
didn't
> | >>> hold water.
> | >>>
> | >>> Not that things couldn't have been done differently, and an
overlap
> | >>> with the in-car market for this sort of talking DAB product
does
> look
> | >>> like a missed opportunity .
> | >>>
> | >>> What chance of the parallel idea of an interface to take, say,
an SD
> | >>> card add-on? Yes, I know these card formats like so many
things
> | >>> change, but then so do the product lines of Pure and their
likes. I
> | >>> do think this idea should be a goer, but where's the impetus
for
> | >>> funding development of some sort of standard?
> | >>>
> | >>> Oh, and what's so wrong with changing the subject lines of
threads
> | >>> like this? As so often, we've drifted considerably.
> | >>>
> | >>> Cheers,
> | >>>
> | >>> From Ray
> | >>> I can be contacted off-list at:
> | >>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>> -----Original Message-----
> | >>> Jackie Cairns
> | >>>
> | >>> Chris, yes I know it does. But that drives me up the wall
because
> by
> | >>> the
> | >>> time you've got it to spell a line of text, the display has
changed.
> | >>> I
> | >>> don't think Pure are going to do anything else to that radio,
which
> is
> | >>> a
> | >>> pity. Like all things that use a tagging system, they outdate
very
> | >>> quickly.
> | >>>
> | >>> Jackie
> | >>> ----- Original Message -----
> | >>> From: "Chris Hallsworth"
<christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:50 AM
> | >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>> Hi, the Pure Sonus 1 XT does, but only by pressing and
holding the
> | >>> info
> | >>>> button, and only then the recorded voice will spell out the
text
> | >>> rather
> | >>>> than read it word by word. Wish they'd improve on that, but
there
> | >>> you go.
> | >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> | >>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> | >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:20 PM
> | >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>>> Hi Wendy
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> The Netgem box no longer provides accurate channel names of
some
> | >>>>> stations. This is because it was originally tagged to speak
> certain
> | >>>>> channel names, and updates have caused its tagging system to
go
> | >>>>> out-of-date. But since I don't watch much TV other than
news and
> | >>> sport,
> | >>>>> it doesn't affect me.
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> I am curious to know, however, whether the Media Centre from
> | >>> Portset you
> | >>>>> mention you have lets you find out the name of a song on a
DAB
> | >>> station
> | >>>>> using the text system. Lots of stations now show the names
of the
> | >>> track
> | >>>>> they are playing, and I wonder if you can find out that info
on
> the
> | >>>>> Centre?
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> Jackie
> | >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> | >>>>> From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:53 PM
> | >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>>>I think there were some dots in the URL which should be
slashes.
> | >>> Try:
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment/index.html
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> This gives details of TV's with audio description and the
Logic
> | >>> and
> | >>>>>> Portset
> | >>>>>> equipment. The Logic is very cheap from Curries, but it
doesn't
> | >>> talk,
> | >>>>>> so
> | >>>>>> not much use to anyone who can't see the screen. A pity
Netgem
> | >>> have
> | >>>>>> stopped
> | >>>>>> making their set top box.
> | >>>>>> Wendy
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> | >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> | >>> Behalf
> | >>>>>> Of
> | >>>>>> David W Wood
> | >>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:46
> | >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> Hi Gordon:
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> The full URL doesn't work, with an audio error message
from the
> | >>> page.
> | >>>>>> Also saying something about one colour to go back, and
another
> | >>> continue.
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes does work however.
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> David
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> | >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> | >>> Behalf
> | >>>>>> Of
> | >>>>>> Gordon Keen
> | >>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:38
> | >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>> Cc: Gordon Keen
> | >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> Strange, safari went straight to it and I've just browsed
through
> | >>> the
> | >>>>>> models available.
> | >>>>>> World wide weirdness!
> | >>>>>> Cheers
> | >>>>>> G
> | >>>>>> From glorious Devon, England.
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 12:26, David W Wood wrote:
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Hi Gordon - this link gives:
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> This page is not available
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> David
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> | >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> | >>>>>>> Behalf Of
> | >>>>>>> Gordon Keen
> | >>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:16
> | >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>>> Cc: Gordon Keen
> | >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Hi
> | >>>>>>> For alternatives check out:
> | >>>>>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment.index.html
> | >>>>>>> Hopefully competition will force down prices in the not
too
> | >>> distant
> | >>>>>>> future.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Cheers
> | >>>>>>> G
> | >>>>>>> From glorious Devon, England.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 11:03, Jackie Cairns wrote:
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> My only comment, and please feel free to jump on me if you
want
> | >>>>>>> folks (though not literally) (smile), is that it's a
rip-off for
> | >>>>>>> £620 or
> | >>>>>>> whatever it costs. I know it speaks, but £620 for that?
Phew!
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> I loved their Talking Teletext unit when I had mine, but
that
> was
> | >>>>>>> when there wasn't so much information available elsewhere.
> | >>> Certain
> | >>>>>>> Freeview
> | >>>>>>> boxes, while they don't provide speech navigation, do
offer
> Audio
> | >>>>>>> Description, and there are also lots of DAISY players on
the
> | >>> market
> | >>>>>>> to tap
> | >>>>>>> into. I just think it's well OTT.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Jackie
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> | >>>>>>> From: sue morgan <mailto:sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:35 AM
> | >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Portset.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Hi list.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> I've been reading about the Portset Accessible Freeview
> | >>>>>>> Receiver and I'm quite interested in it. I'm wondering if
> anyone
> | >>> on
> | >>>>>>> this
> | >>>>>>> list has one, or knows anything about them. I've listened
to
> the
> | >>>>>>> audio demo
> | >>>>>>> on the Portset website and it seems very accessible.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Any feedback would be grate as I'd love to have an
> | >>>>>>> accessible freeview receiver.
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Sue.
> | >>>>>>> e-mail sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>>> mobile 07968825286
> | >>>>>>> msn sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>>> skype suemorgan1006
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Gordon Keen
> | >>>>>>> gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
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