[340] Re: Some rather lovely thoughts
- From: Luka Mili?a <lmil005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: 340@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:30:28 +1200
social interaction should be adressed with a critical pluralist perspective, to
understand the hidden profile existing below the surface...
plus if I complicate the thing, then people will drop the topic more quickly and
I will be happier...
Quoting davi@xxxxxxxxx:
~=~ oh come on. "dancing" with random girls can't be that scientific. no need=
~=~ to=20
~=~ justify the randomness of the whole situation.
~=~
~=~ Quoting Luka Mili=9Aa <lmil005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
~=~
~=~ > Random is a concept that can be understood at three different Habermasi=
~=~ an /=20
~=~ > Churchmanian levels. Firstly, Thilak's opinion of randomness is wholly=
~=~ based
~=~ >=20
~=~ > on his own sincerity, in order to question his understanding one should=
~=~ =20
~=~ > question his sincerity (which can be done, especially with his sarcasm).
~=~ > On the social/organisational level we should consider the socially acce=
~=~ pted=20
~=~ > norms of randomness, this is socially constructed, that is, a level abo=
~=~ ve the
~=~ >=20
~=~ > personal understanding, it is a shared understanding at the level of=20
~=~ > communities, in this case, the New Zealand society in a given demograph=
~=~ ic.
~=~ > The randomness is then that as experienced by the society. I think tha=
~=~ t the
~=~ >=20
~=~ > randomness in my case was definitely there, since the girl started danc=
~=~ ing=20
~=~ > with me before she even talked to me or anything. Indeed, this was veri=
~=~ fied
~=~ > by=20
~=~ > the odd looks of the other people on the dancefloor.=20
~=~ > At the technical level, we should consider the definition of random, i.=
~=~ e.
~=~ > it's=20
~=~ > truthful meaning. Dictionary.com's answer is:
~=~ > "Without a governing design, method, or purpose; unsystematically: chos=
~=~ e a=20
~=~ > card at random from the deck."
~=~ > While we could assume that there was a general "governing design" of pi=
~=~ cking
~=~ >=20
~=~ > up girls when one goes out clubbing, we could question the randomness.
~=~ > As a summary, the Habermasian perspectives have shown Thilak's argument=
~=~ to be
~=~ >=20
~=~ > correct/incorrect depengin on the validty claims or guarantors one empl=
~=~ oys.=20
~=~ >=20
~=~ > This is not uncommon and is to be expected in most problems occuring in=
~=~ the=20
~=~ > social domain. The Habermasian analysis has proven helpful, but perhap=
~=~ s,
~=~ > more=20
~=~ > analysis should be employed at the Foucouldian analysis of Thilak's pos=
~=~ t in=20
~=~ > the first place.
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~=~ > Quoting Thilak Nathen <thilak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
~=~ >=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ Wuahahhahahaha....a random chick eh? Interesting....which club wu=
~=~ z this
~=~ > ~=3D~ again? Get into details man, we want details.
~=~ > ~=3D~=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ Btw, there is no such thing as random. There's alwiz an algorithm=
~=~ behind
~=~ > ~=3D~ it. Hence, I conclude that a random chick is, in fact, not that r=
~=~ andom
~=~ > ~=3D~ at all...it's a product of a complex mathematical equation calcul=
~=~ ated by
~=~ > ~=3D~ nature...it's all meant to be man...it's all meant to be...
~=~ > ~=3D~=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ Ask Chee if you don't believe me... :) <---- Note: The smile
~=~ > ~=3D~=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ =3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ -----Original Message-----
~=~ > ~=3D~ From: 340-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:340-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =
~=~ On
~=~ > ~=3D~ Behalf Of Luka Mili=3DB9a
~=~ > ~=3D~ Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:38 p.m.
~=~ > ~=3D~ To: 340@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
~=~ > ~=3D~ Subject: [340] Re: Some rather lovely thoughts
~=~ > ~=3D~=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ oh come on man, leave it...
~=~ > ~=3D~ im over random chicks... trying to be all mature here...
~=~ > ~=3D~ anyway i dont think there even have been random chicks - more lik=
~=~ e one
~=~ > ~=3D~ and=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ thats it...
~=~ > ~=3D~ BTW heard back from Unisys?
~=~ > ~=3D~=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ Quoting Tony Yeung <Tony.Yeung@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
~=~ > ~=3D~=20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Very nice Luka.. now share with us your 'lovely thoughts'=
~=~ about =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ your
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ random chicks @ clubs.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ -----Original Message-----
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ From: Luka Milisa [mailto:lmil005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2004 4:30 p.m.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ To: 340 list
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Subject: [340] Some rather lovely thoughts
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
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~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Inspiring speech by the CEO of COCA COLA:
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ "Imagine Life as a game in which you are juggling some fi=
~=~ ve balls
~=~ > =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ in
~=~ > ~=3D~ the
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ air".
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ You name them - work, family, health, friends and spirit =
~=~ and =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ you're
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ keeping all
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ of these in the air. You will soon understand that work i=
~=~ s a =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ rubber
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ ball. If
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ you drop it, it will bounce back. But the other four ball=
~=~ s - =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ family,
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ health,
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ friends and spirit - are made of glass. If you drop one o=
~=~ f these,
~=~ > ~=3D~ they
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ will be
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ irrevocably scuffed, marked, nicked, damaged or even shat=
~=~ tered. =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ They
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ will never
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ be the same. You must understand that and strive for bala=
~=~ nce in =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ your
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ life.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ How?
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't undermine your worth by comparing yourself with oth=
~=~ ers. It =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ is
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ because we
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ are different that each of us is special.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't set your goals by what other people deem important.=
~=~ Only you
~=~ > ~=3D~ know
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ what is
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ best for you.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't take for granted the things closest to your heart. =
~=~ Cling to
~=~ > ~=3D~ them
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ as you
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ would your life, for without them, life is meaningless.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't let your life slip through your fingers by living i=
~=~ n the =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ past
~=~ > ~=3D~ or
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ for the
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ future. By living your life one day at a time, you live a=
~=~ ll the =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ days
~=~ > ~=3D~ of
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ your
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ life.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't give up when you still have something to give. Noth=
~=~ ing is
~=~ > ~=3D~ really
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ over
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ until the moment you stop trying.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't be afraid to admit that you are less than perfect. =
~=~ It is =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ this
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ fragile
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ thread that binds us together.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't be afraid to encounter risks. It is by taking chanc=
~=~ es that =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ we
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ learn how to
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ be brave.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't shut love out of your life by saying it's impossibl=
~=~ e to find
~=~ > ~=3D~ time.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ The
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ quickest way to receive love is to give; the fastest way =
~=~ to lose
~=~ > ~=3D~ love is
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ to
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ hold it too tightly; and the best way to keep love is to =
~=~ give it
~=~ > ~=3D~ wings.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't run through life so fast that you forget not only w=
~=~ here =3D
~=~ > ~=3D~ you've
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ been, but
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ also where you are going. Don't forget, a person's greate=
~=~ st
~=~ > ~=3D~ emotional
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ need is
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ to feel appreciated.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't be afraid to learn. Knowledge is weightless, a trea=
~=~ sure you
~=~ > ~=3D~ can
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ always
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ carry easily.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't use time or words carelessly. Neither can be retrie=
~=~ ved.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Life is not a race, but a journey to be savoured each ste=
~=~ p of the
~=~ > ~=3D~ way.
~=~ > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ You only get one go at life, it is not a rehearsal.
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