--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "SWM" <SWMirsky@...> wrote: > > > My point is even a rock "behaves". > > Yes, but the meaning of "behaves" changes with reference to rocks. Quite right. But this point needs a *lot* of elaboration, in the absence of which any discussion is likely to be incoherent. Certainly, computers are more active than rocks, in a way that I suggest is substantial and important. Whether humans are more active than computers, in any way that is substantial and important, is a separate question. On the surface evidence, of course, this seems true. The question is about what one finds on further analysis. > We are not very far apart here, I think, though I do sense that you are more > radical about this than I am. moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue :) Josh ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/