comparing migrations to 20-40 years ago plus, it is really getting scary out there especially with the shorebirds and small passerine and grassland birds. the numbers just arent there! Many ducks and waterfowl seem to not be affected as much, but the rest are in big trouble. The woods grasslands and prairies in Wisconsin today hold just a fragment of the number of birds that used to be here, and the numbers are getting smaller as time passes. i remember what it was like in the fifties and sixties and there is no comparing the few birds we have now .both on migration and as resident birds. Global Ag, climate, and loss of habitat have knocked the hell out of the bird numbers globally. This recent somewhat first time public countrywide bird reporting on the internet is probably adding confusion to the perception of what and how many birds are out there in terms of number of birds seen by the public. This is not a criticism at all of reporting, but if an upland plover or Eastern Meadowlark is sighted in Portage County thousands of folks will see images of it on the internet. Where are those thousands of meadowlarks and plovers that used to frequent Wisconsin? This is not to denigrate reporting or data harvesting but just to point out sometimes it can be a bit too comforting to see rare bird photos and reports when 50 years ago there were many fewer rare birds on our Wisconsin landscape. Perspective sometimes clouds reality. Stan Temples recent lecture on the Passenger Pigeon in Rhinelander was wonderful and very sobering in terms of realizing how quickly a mass extinction of a species occur. He offered many good thoughts on conservation and the importance of preserving our precious avian communities. ras #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn