[wisb] FYI: Yahoo subscribers - no joy in Muddville just yet
- From: Tom Sykes <sykes@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Network" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:09:21 -0400
Several former users of Yahoo for Wisbirdn have switched to gmail. Several have
not. However, all the removed Yahoo accounts are now back on Wisbirdn.
The reason the Yahoo users are back on is because Freelists, the server where
Wisbirdn is hosted, has devised a fix to enable Yahoo users to be returned to
the list.
However, the fix is by no means a panacea.
The good news is that a Yahoo user is now able to receive posts as well as send
posts.
The bad news is that anyone using their “reply-to” function to send that yahoo
address an individual message back-channel will not be able to do so. What they
will see in their To: line will be:
“dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx”
What does this mean? If you want to reply to the entire list to continue a
thread in a conversation that a Yahoo user has initiated, you will have to
manually replace the "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" with
"wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" for the entire list to see your response. However,
since the Yahoo subscriber’s address has been redacted, you will no longer be
able to send a personal response to the Yahoo sender back-channel. You will
have to manually add that individual’s Yahoo address but of course, since it
has been redacted, you won’t be able to see it to do so. The only way is if you
happen to know the sender’s Yahoo email address. Chances are, you won't.
If you are a Yahoo user and wish to have Wisbirdn subscribers have the
opportunity to respond back-channel to any post you send to the list, you’ll
have to add your Yahoo address to your signature block. Otherwise, no one will
have the ability to respond back-channel (including list administrators).
Freelists is still working on a better solution (as are many other listservs
around the world) to deal with Yahoo and their DMARC implementation.
The crux of the matter is that Yahoo is entirely unfriendly to mailing lists.
For a better understanding about why Yahoo has implemented DMARC (and why other
email providers may follow suit) here are a couple of links:
http://www.virusbtn.com/blog/2014/04_15.xml
http://blog.returnpath.com/blog/christine-borgia/all-about-yahoos-dmarc-reject-policy
Finally, if you are a Yahoo user, please consider using another email provider
like gmail for your Wisbirdn mail. Also, there is a Wisconsin Birding Facebook
page to consider as an alternative:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wisbirdn/
(Note: The group is NOT affiliated with Wisbirdn even though the name
“wisbirdn” appears in the address)
Tom Sykes
Wisbirdn List Owner
sykes@xxxxxxxxxx
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