This didn't go thru initially so I'm re-sending it. From: Seegert, Greg Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:10 PM To: [Wisb] Subject: All Saw the question regarding what species of fish might be able to take a grebe. My best guess is that the bird that was the subject of this query surfaced out of sight and likely wasn't taken. If it was I can't say for sure what took it, but I can eliminate several of the species suggested. Alligator gar---doesn't occur in Wi. Blue catfish-doesn't occur in WI...flathead cats are predatory but typically do not occur in L Mich....channel cats are generalist feeders plus water temps are too cold for them to be active yet. Common carp-rarely predatory and certainly not equipped to deal with this size prey. Snapping turtle-too cold for them to be active Salmon---a grebe wouldn't fit their search image Muskie---possible but this is an uncommon to rare fish in L Mich (except near Green Bay), so not likely N pike---This is the only realistic possibility, but still unlikely If anyone wants to know more about fishes, the second ed. of the Peterson Freshwater Fishes is now out (at least on line). It includes 150 spp not in the first edition. With regard to WI fishes, the most up to date reference is "WI fishes 2000: status and distribution" by John Lyons et al and available through WI Sea Grant. Greg Seegert Deerfiedl, IL #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn.