Tom, I was surprised to see them not in pine, since I had always been told to look for red crossbills in pine trees previously (without luck I might add). Based on the recordings I made this morning, these birds appear to be type 3, the smallest crossbills in North America. According to Jeff Groth at the American Museum of Natural History, type 3 crossbills "are strongly associated with weak-coned conifers such as hemlock (/Tsuga/), spruces (/Picea/), and larch (/Larix/)". much useful crossbill info can be found on Jeff Groth's site: http://research.amnh.org/vz/ornithology/crossbills/contents.html Todd Wilson Glendale On 8/12/2012 8:30 PM, Thomas Schaefer wrote: > Betsy- birds were foraging in White/Black Hill's Spruce and Norway Spruce- > don't think there are any Balsams on the property. I was surprised to see > them using the smaller-coned spruces as I figured RECRs favored larger coned > species of pine and spruce. Perhaps they bred SOUTH of here and are now > returning north, as Purple finches and Pine Siskins seem to do. > > Tom Schaefer > Hartford > Washington County > On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:05 PM, betsyacorn@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >> Had nice long looks at these voracious eaters today at Forest Beach, tho it >> spurs many questions. They seemed to be foraging in Balsam Fir, which is a >> very unusual species here in SE WI, tho far more common up north. I was >> stunned at the cone crop which is truly mast-like this year, and wonder if >> it is due to drought-induced stress as well as mild winter temps. I assume >> that the balsam were planted here during the years this property was a golf >> course, and am surprised at how well the dozen or so of them are doing in >> this open location on the western part of the preserve. With close-up views >> of the cone consumption, it seemed that the cones are viably full of seed, >> with many still maturing. >> >> So, could one surmise that these trees were once visited in winter by one of >> the adult crossbills who kept the gps location stored in his or her very >> clever bird-brain for a time when the kids needed to eat?? It is a large >> flock and must have a brilliant scout to have located what I imagine to be a >> somewhat isolated crop of balsam fir cones this far south. >> >> Does anyone imagine that they overwintered this far south, bred, and raised >> young in this lower latitude? >> >> Having (very regrettably) not gotten up north this summer, I wonder of the >> cone crop production in balsam fir and the various northern spruces with >> small cones there that crossbills favor. I believe the north had far more >> normalized rainfall than we, though I don't know if the northern WI winter >> was as mild as ours down here. Any northerners want to address this??? >> >> Also, I was struck by how many dicksissle inhabit FBMP this year. Numerous >> - I stopped conservatively counting at 15 - adults and juveniles flew around >> me as I walked for an hour or more through this remarkable preserve. At one >> point, and in one dead deciduous tree west of the fir, I had six different >> species: Bluebird, Crossbill, Cedar Waxwing, Goldfinch, Field Sparrow and >> Dicksissle. They were making a racket because four Kestrel had just flown >> over and spooked the Red Tail. Hats off to you, Noel Cutright and >> colleagues for spearheading the preservation and restoration of this >> remarkable habitat. >> >> Betsy Abert >> So. Milwaukee, but reporting from the Land of Oz. >> >> #################### >> You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding >> Network (Wisbirdn). >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn >> To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn >> Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn >> >> >> > #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding > Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn > > > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn