They are in the I386 directory of your Windows Server disk. Search for adminpak.msi JK Spriggs Jon <Jon.Spriggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Does anyone have a copy of these tools that they'd be able to e-mail to me? The Admin Pack that's available from the Microsoft site won't work on a pre-Service Pack machine, and we can't apply SP1 yet as it's not got though our testing team. Many thanks, Jon Spriggs