[windows2000] Re: IE7
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:43 +0200
Andrew M Stemen <> wrote on Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:42 PM:
If it's not cheap (or better yet free), we're not going there. Small
university departments are allergic to paying for anything, unless it's
really, really necessary. Zenworks is not necessary, IE is there and works and
that's it, as far as my boss's concerned.
> Yes, ZenWorks is definitely payware. Last I checked, it was not cheap. I
> personally *greatly* prefer Novell eDirectory with ZenWorks over AD with
> (any utility I've seen thus far). It just seems to "make sense" to me,
> moreso than AD. ;)
>
> I wouldn't even bother looking into it unless you had already been
> thinking about it -- adding ZenWorks to a network is not trivial (or at
> least it wasn't back when I was managing ZenWorks networks -- it's been
> almost two years). I'm sure that Firefox has plenty of ways to be
> deployed and maintained on AD outside of Zen.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:29:58 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> Andrew M Stemen <> wrote on Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:34 PM:
>>
>> I've heard about zenworks with FF, and I do use lots and lots of
>> batchscripts too. Don't see what could possibly be bad with batchscripts
>> though. 8-)
>>
>> Is zenworks payware?
>>
>>
>>> While some people look down on them, I think that batch scripts are
>>> wonderful tools. That's what I have used in the past to maintain Mozilla
>>> installations.
>>>
>>> The last time I deployed Firefox enterprise-wide was on a WAN running
>>> Novell NetWare with ZenWorks. In short, the way I managed it was:
>>>
>>> - Made an application "snapshot" for ZenWorks of the Firefox installation
>>> - Changed all of the program settings to the ones that I wanted to mandate
>>> - Modified the Firefox application in ZenWorks to use the mandatory
>>> settings, and to deploy them on the first installation
>>> - For each update thereafter, I would only have to replace the
>>> appropriate files in the application deployment, and increment the
>>> version counter, and the files were automatically updated on the next
>>> execution of the program.
>>>
>>> I'm well aware that this is not a ZenWorks mailing list... but I know
>>> that Firefox has been deployed across several enterprises that run AD.
>>>
>>> See also, this link:
>>> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0_Institutional_Deployment
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:17:03 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>>>> Phillip Newberry <> wrote on Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:04 PM:
>>>>
>>>> I can't count on my users to keep Mozilla/Firefox up-to-date, whenever
>>>> an exploit for it is discovered.
>>>>
>>>> Besides the IE merges fine with respect to forced settings etc in the AD,
>>>> compared to the opensource alternatives, at least as far as I know.
>>>> Unless somebody has made some sort of ADM-template for Moz/FF to be
>>>> deployed over AD/GPO and where settings can be set?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No rush, Mozilla works great. They support their
>>>>> product with no head aches of potential virus's. It
>>>>> will be exclided in my updates for preventative
>>>>> measures. I'm not waiting in line to get software
>>>>> from a company that pushes out code that is known to
>>>>> be poorly written and easily hacked into.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've deployed the blocker to all our domain
>>>>>> computers. I've also enlisted a
>>>>>> handful of volunteer users to try the sharp release when it becomes
>>>>>> available. Should they not encounter any major problems I'm
>>>>>> rolling out IE7 ASAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The RC1 I run on my own computer, has so far worked very good, with the
>>>>>> exception of a mad flickering of the pointer, when I leave the mouse
>>>>>> pointer in a field I'm about to fill with eg uid or some
>>>>>> such. Not a biggie, but it's
>>>>>> a bit irritating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strangely enough, most of the volunteers have a
>>>>>> history with using Firefox at
>>>>>> home. Must the tabbed browsing that made them
>>>>>> volunteer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank god for Firefox, or MS wouldn't have included tabs in long, long
>>>>>> time...! Competition is good. 8-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herchenbach, Jim
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:22 PM
>>>>>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [windows2000] IE7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are people thinking in regard to the IE7
>>>>>> update? Plans, Policies, etc?
>>>>>> Anyone considering the nonexpiring blocker? Just
>>>>>> curious how others are
>>>>>> planning around this or maybe it's not a big deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Herchenbach
>>>>>> RVW Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Newberry
>>>>> Computer Network Engineer Consultant
>>>>> MCSE NT&2000, MCP+IIS CNA, CAN
>>>>>
>>>>> Your destiny is in your hands. Just do it.
>>>>>
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