Re: new member

  • From: "John McCann" <lists@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 08:12:41 -0500

Bless you Ron! I've been totally mystified as to why material played back 
through winamp was always faded to the left, while eliquence and anything 
played through goldwave or real player was perfectly centered. I guess that, 
for us JAWS users, it really does pay to hit "control w" to see what's 
available. Apparently, I must have hit "alt control j" once, and I'll bet 
you I did that while attempting to jump to a particular time, or perform 
some other "jump" function.

Again, many thanks.

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: new member


Hi PatrickNC,

The reason you didn't get an immediate answer is probably because nobody 
knew the answer.  I don't profess to be sure of anything either, but you 
know you just might have gotten the balance in Winamp out of wack.  If you 
are using JAWS, the process is easy to achieve--that is getting the balance 
out of wack.  JAWS has scripts for Winamp which while quite good most often, 
can lead to some problems if you're not careful.  You can move the 
panning/balance in Winamp with JAWS by pressing the keystrokes alt + Control 
+ semicolon (100% to the right) through alt + control + H (panning set 
to -100% all the way to the left).

This is only a guess, but if you are indeed using JAWS, try playing a song 
with Winamp and then playing with the keystrokes alt + control + semicolon 
alt + control + l, alt + control + K, alt + control + J and alt + control + 
H to move the panning around.  The keystroke alt + control + K should give 
you 0% panning and should place your balance in the middle where you would 
normally want it.  If this doesn't work, then you may have some other 
systematic problem.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: patricknc
  To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: new member


  I asked about a problem I was having with Winamp the other night and got 
no reply.  I can't imagine this because everybody seems so helpful, so I 
have to think it didn't get to the list somehow.  But I did get the message 
back, so that says that it did get to the list.  I don't know, but I'll put 
it out there again, and hopefully somebody will have an idea for me.  When I 
play an audio cd through Winamp, I lose most of the left channel.  I can 
play regular mp3 files from my hard drive and Winamp is fine.  I can play 
cd's through either of the other 2 players, Realplayer and Windows Media, 
and they play fine.  I have 2 drives on my computer, and the same problem 
occurs on both of them.  I've tried playing with the volume control settings 
on the computer and nothing helps.  And also, the speech from the computer 
comes out of both speakers, even when the sound from the cd comes mostly 
from the right.  I was using Winamp 5.5 when this started, and I just hadn't 
upgraded for a while.  I upgraded to 5.12 & it didn't help.  I completely 
uninstalled including deleting the winamp folder and reinstalled 5.12 and it 
still didn't help.  I upgraded to 5.13, and still no luck.  Does anybody 
have any ideas at all?  I know I could use one of the other players, but 
like everybody else on the list, I really like Winamp a lot better.  Help!!


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jerry Mader
    To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:31 PM
    Subject: Re: new member


    I just thought i'd add my many congrads to the many you will find on 
here.
    I hope you will enjoy using winamp as many of  us do.
    When winamp works propperly that is! lol
    That's why we have all these friendly people on this list to turn to 
when things just aren't workin' right.
    Well like i said, hope you find winamp usefull and this llist as well.
    Jerry Mader

    Jerry Mader
    Owner of the blind forem and the Jerry Mader Cast.
    point your pod catcher  to this address
    feeds.feedburner.com/TheBlindForem
    Or
    feeds.feedburner.com/TheJerryMaderCast
    Don't have a pod catcher you can download one at
    http://juicereceiver.sorceforge.net
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Lisa
      To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:48 PM
      Subject: Re: new member


      Hi Ron,
      Thank you for taking the time to explain all of that to me.  It really 
is a big help.  I did find the shout cast stations, and they are really 
cool.  One thing I couldn't figure out is, when you are listening to the 
stations, how do you stop the music, so you can choose a different station? 
Again thanks for the help.
      Take care,
      Lisa
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ron Canazzi
        To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:06 AM
        Subject: Re: new member


        Hi Lisa,

        Well, I can answer a few of your questions. You said that the 
program functions differently than any other media players you have used. 
You are right.  Winamp does not have standard drop down menus such as alt + 
F for file, alt + E for edit, alt + V for view and so on.  It has a non 
standard interface.  However, JAWS and Window-Eyes scripting and set files 
do make this program very accessible.  To access the main menu using JAWS 
press alt + F.  All other Winamp choices are under this menu.  You can 
browse through this menu that contains sub-menus and you will see the 
hotkeys listed.  Also if you are using JAWS and you are in any window, press 
insert + H for JAWS specific hotkeys and insert + W for Winamp specific 
hotkeys.  Now here are some items that you have asked about to get you 
started.

        By default, Winamp will play a file when it is clicked on in My 
Computer/Windows Explorer.  This behavior can be changed under preferences. 
However, I find it easier to create a playlist in Winamp by using the 
enqueue choice under the context menu in My Computer/Windows Explorer.

        1. Highlight the first file using My Computer/Windows Explorer you 
wish to include in your playlist in Winamp and press enter on it to play it;
        2.  while that first file is playing, move to the next file you wish 
to include in the playlist and press shift + F10 for the context menu;
        3.  choose enqueue in Winamp and press enter;
        4.  the file will be added to the Winamp play list and will be 
played after the currently playing file;
        5.  repeat steps 2 through 4 above until you complete your playlist;
        6.  then switch back to Winamp and if you want to save this playlist 
for any reason;
        7.  open the playlist editor (if it is not already open) with the 
keystroke alt + E;
        8.  your playlist should be there already--based on the steps I have 
given above;
        9.  to save it, press control + S and you will be presented with the 
standard windows dialogue for file saves;
        10.  Make sure the playlist is saved in the folder where you have 
the files;
        11.  If you don't save the playlist in the folder where the files 
are located, then you may not be able to use that playlist if you move the 
files to a CD or portable device;
        12.  That's why I always save all the files I wish to include in a 
playlist and burn to CD or move to a portable device to the same folder. 
There is another way of creating playlists for saving to disk without using 
the Winamp Playlist editor that will allow you to include files from 
multiple folders, but that's for another list.

        As far as getting to the library, Winamp has individual windows for 
each of it's utilities.  There are hotkeys associated with these windows. 
For the library, if it is not already open, press alt + L.  If you are using 
JAWS, you can press the control + Tab keystroke to cycle through the open 
windows.  JAWS should tell you which window you are cycling through when you 
press this keystroke.  Also, to make sure you are in the correct window, 
press insert + shift + W and JAWS will tell you which window you are in and 
which other windows are open.  Here are the hotkeys for each of the windows:

        Main window alt + W
        playlist editor alt + e
        video window alt + v
        media library alt + L
        equalizer alt + G

        All the above keystrokes are toggles.  This means if they are open 
and you press the keystrokes they will close.  If they are not open and you 
press the keystrokes, they will open.

        Now as to what is in the library: the shoutcast music is there and 
in the past, you could set your download limit to some very high level and 
view all available Shoutcast stations--at this point that is in excess of 
ten thousand stations.  This _was_ a great feature and you could stay right 
in Winamp and not have to visit the Shoutcast website which is a very 
complex site to navigate--although it it is quite accessible.  However, AOL 
took over Nullsoft and Shoutcast and they have made a few changes--among 
which is the change that limits the maximum number of listings downloaded to 
1000 stations.  The Shoutcast listing in the media library is still a good 
feature because it does give you a taste of just what Shoutcast has to 
offer.  In any case, navigating the media library is a bit tricky but quite 
accessible once you get the hang of it.  In addition to the Shoutcast music 
listing, you can navigate around your own system and add media to the 
library locally, you can access samples of AOL music service, there is also 
a shoutcast video listing, and access to your portable or network drives 
(CD's and USB items such as ippods or External players if you have them.) 
Navigating this library uses the tree view method.  That means that when you 
open the library, you are placed in a tree view of items.  Use up and down 
arrow or first letter navigation to move to an item and then press the tab 
key to access the various features of each item.  You can also use the burn 
item in the library to burn media files to CD.  Personally, I do not use 
this burn utility in Winamp--because I find CDEX easier to use and more 
intuitive.  That is another program for another list.

        You may want to include various file types to be played in Winamp. 
You do that as follows:

        1.  from the Winamp program, press control + P for preferences;
        2.  you are presented with a tree view of items as mentioned above 
in the library directions;
        3.  press the home key to move to the top of the tree;
        4.  arrow down to the file types item;
        5.  press the tab key to move to the list of file types;
        6.  press the up and down arrow keys to select a file type and use 
the space bar to check or uncheck the file types;
        7.  you could also press tab until you hear the select all button 
and press space bar on it to select all file types at once if you don't care 
that Winamp will now play all media files;
        8.  you can also have Winamp play CD's by checking the box that says 
'play audio CD's';
        9.  then when you are done making your choices, tab to the close 
button and press enter to close the preferences dialogue.

        Well, I hope these tips give you a good start for using Winamp. 
Chris has an FAQ that is much more extensive and maybe he will send it out 
again when he reads this rambling mess I have just typed <g>.

        Take care and welcome to the group.

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Lisa
          To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:22 PM
          Subject: new member


          Hello everyone,
          My name is Lisa, and I just joined this list.  I just installed 
the latest version of winamp.  I am a jaws user, and I have never used 
winamp before.  I have a few questions about the program if you all don't 
mind.  The program I used to use, when I would hit enter on a song to play 
it the song would be added to the play list.  Is this how winamp works, or 
do you have to create a play list?  If I need to create a play list, how do 
I do that?  I would also like to know how to get to the library, and what 
kinds of things can you do in the library?  I also heard that you can listen 
to something called shoutcast, does anyone know how I can do this?  I hope 
this wasn't too many questions.  I was told that winamp is a very jaws 
friendly program, so I thought I would give it a try.  So far it is much 
different then the program I was using.
          Any help would be greatly appreciated.
          Take care,
          Lisa 



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