Hi: I couldn't agree to Bruce's comments any more if I tried. As far as software goes, I'll have a little *less accessibility* and use the same programs rather than having a completely separate package made just for the blind. Everybody knows that the blind market is very tite, and while I agree that *accessibility* (roughly defined) is good, so is integration into the real world. Over hype on accessibility, however, is bad for lots of reasons. We can't expect everything to be done for us, that's just the way the world is, and has nothing to do with blindness. By the way, for anyone wondering, I am a jaws user, and one not to use jaws scripts unless they are necessary, and/or provide some function that can't readily be done through any sort of intuitive interface. The winamp scripts have some neat functions, yes, but I've used Winamp with Hal, which as far as I know doesn't have any winamp maps, and I can still get around in the playlist without the aid of scripts. Mind you, Hal doesn't read the readout from the EQ window, which I don't use much anyway. Yes, the scripts do help, and they are useful, but they're not the world. I've used Winamp since version 1.something in late 1997 way back when there weren't even shortcut keys for rewind and fast forward, and of course no plugin support, when all I had was Windows 95, ASAW, and 16mb of ram, playing badly encoded mp3's from old first generation mpeg layer III codecs from a parallel-port interface zip drive. I could usually play about two mp3's on a good day, before the system would slow to a crawl and have to be restarted. In fact, when I first started using it, the open dialogue didn't say "open files" like it does now, it said "open MPEGs", as that was the only supported file architecture. Ah yes, those were the days! As far as I'm concerned, Winamp is still an open architecture: people will still write plugins for it even if they are not on an official site somewhere, and new file types will most likely be supported, so until the day comes when Winamp no longer runs on modern architecture, or in some way henders the ability of the system to perform in general, I'm gonna keep on using it. To post a message to the list, send it to winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to: winamp4theblind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/winamp4theblind> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list directly. Instead, please contact the list owners at winamp4theblind-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx