[website-critique] Re: Freelance Contract

  • From: "David Bruce Jr" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <websitecritique@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:38:34 -0500

Hey!...I was a landscape contractor for several years...

...watch it bud <eg>
Yep...some landscape contractors are artists. It depends on
if you do any botanical and/or arborist stuff in addition to
lawn care.

And as to how much a landscape contractor makes:
You are in someone's yard, you have the key to the gate,
garage...You often get the key to your clients front door.

and some are mere lawnmower guys and grunt laborers.

I charged enough to cover my equipment repair costs.
and should have charged alot more to cover how fast a
pickup truck gets reduced to junk in a few seasons.

it was quite a few times the hourly rate I got as an
employee...and still it wasn't enough.

I really liked knowing I was "Invictus- master of my own

Being a mere employee is being a sheep.

Being self employed is 'taking the bull by the horns'

end rant

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Hand" <jackhand@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <websitecritique@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:30 AM
Subject: [website-critique] Re: Freelance Contract

> Vania,
>   If you talk with some professional landscapers, they hardly
> consider themselves to operate at the level of a mere computer
> programmer.  After all, they are artists.  Programmers are mere
> grunt laborers.  They merely follow the great directions and
> full flowcharts provided by the analysts, the real brains of
> the DP field.  Ha, Ha, Ha.  Was surprised that I could hold
> my laughter in that long.   ;-)
>   I thought that lawn mower reference would stir you up.
>   Anyway, you will be operating on a 1099 basis.  You will have
> to handle your taxes - the IRS can provide you with the necessary
> forms.  And, your state will provide you with their required forms.
>   You will have to handle your insurance.  If you can get under
> your wife's you are fortunate.
>   Understand this, many people will envy you.  So, best to keep
> a somewhat low profile.  Don't tell people how much money you are
> making.  And, don't be surprised if others try to sabotage you.
> Employees can be very angry at contractors.  They think that our
> presence indicates that they are not all that good.  Even though
> this frequently is true, it is still smarter not to ever indicate
> that this is your opinion.
>   Good luck.  Many people need to try it.  If you are successful,
> good.  If not, well, at least you tried.  So many people never
> try.
>                  ;-)))
> >From: "Vania Smrkovski" <vania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >I hardly equate mowing the lawn with mainframe programming or web design,
> >but if you wish....  I do thank you for your comments.  And in one sense
> >you
> >answered my questions by saying that contracts are not strictly
> >which is something I did not know.  On the other hand, I have colleagues
> >who
> >have done work and did not get paid, and I do want to at least address
> >minimal need.
> >
> >Also, in the one case, since this is a long term relationship, it seems
> >there should be some formal statement of the relationship, whether all of
> >my
> >concerns are contractually stipulated or not.
> >
> >Have you never come across any situation which required such protections?
> >I
> >mean, in one sense, isn't a simple work order itself a "contract"?
> >
> >Thank you and Peter for the links.  At first glance, they look fantastic.
> >
> >You say you've done this kind of work for 20 years.  What has been your
> >experience with tax and insurance issues?  I can probably get my wife's
> >Unviersity Student insurance, but I would be interested if you have other
> >thoughts, as well.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >A lot!
> >
> >Vania
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