Yes, early buy-in is key. In fact, testing should be explicitly part of the contractually agreed upon budget, which means it should be part of the original job proposal, which in turn means that one should be preaching usability beginning with the first meetings with the client, explaining that it is an inseparable and critical aspect of good design. If we were building them an airplane, would they want to fly it without us first testing it? That is in fact the equivalent what this project manager is proposing. -Anders On 6/27/02 11:12 AM, m o r r y at morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Another option is to get the client in on this as early as possible so they > understand the importance. One tactic to get buy-in from the client is to > ask them if they want to be included in the testing process for example. If > it's QA for usability often you need to involved the client because they can > provide you with their client list to get testers from existing clients. > > Morry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keren Solomon" <kerensolomon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> meeting, bring up the subject of testing. At that point, the project >> schedule is rarely set in stone. Ask (nicely) when testing will take > place. >> Suggest where it should be built into the project plan. Explain how long > it >> will take and what report/technical spec/bug list/other documentation will >> result from doing the testing. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to > webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To access our webform (instead of sending e-mail) for popular commands > including subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, and vacation visit > www.WebProducers.org. You can also access the list archive at the website. > > Questions and comments are welcome just e-mail me, morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx __________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To access our webform (instead of sending e-mail) for popular commands including subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, and vacation visit www.WebProducers.org. You can also access the list archive at the website. Questions and comments are welcome just e-mail me, morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx