[visionrehabtherapist] Re: capacitive controls

  • From: "Brink-Chaney, Marcie A" <MBrink-C@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "'dougdrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <dougdrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "kfarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kfarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 07:56:50 -0500

Hi Doug,

Well, life has been interesting with this new oven.  When you marked your oven, 
did you place the marks on the buttons or near them?  I have tried wearing a 
glove and, like you said, the oven does not detect anything.  On the other 
hand, if you touch anything with a bare finger, you get beeps.  We tried to set 
up wifi on the appliance and got a message saying that the password for the 
wifi might be wrong.  That’s not correct because my IPhone is connected to it 
all of the time at home and my husband’s nephew connected his phone to it 
successfully.  Unfortunately, the customer help people were not available when 
our help was.  Their hours are from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Friday.  
I’m concerned that their app will be as inaccessible as their website which is 
not so good.  We’re afraid to put anything on the front of the oven for fear 
that they won’t want to take it back if I can’t use it.  I think you can 
probably answer my questions without talking to me but if you think it would be 
better to talk to you directly, you can either give me a number or I can give 
you mine.

Any help you can give me would be appreciated!  I’m like a kid with a new toy 
who is told I can’t use it till I get the batteries.  You know what I mean!

Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT CATIS
Visually Impaired Services
University Health Center
Detroit Receiving Hospital
Detroit Medical Center
Address:  4201 St. Antoine
Detroit MI 48201
Phone:  (313)745-4131
Email:  mbrink-c@xxxxxxx<mailto:mbrink-c@xxxxxxx>
From: visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Rose
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 1:02 AM
To: kfarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] Re: capacitive controls

Hi Kendra, if I don’t wear a glove it seems that if I hit the wrong button, and 
give it a couple seconds I can move to the right button and hit it to turn on 
the function I want.
From what I can tell this works most of the time.  It does make a quiet chime 
when you activate a button.  The off and on chimes are different.  It is an 
ascending short chime when you press the on button, helping to indicate the 
power is up.
I do like  having the Smart phone app along with it, even if I use the physical 
buttons on the appliance the smart phone app informs me what the status is.  So 
it is in essence like having a talking appliance.



Be well.
Doug McKinleyville Low vision Support Group (The bumpers) (707) 839-0588
Senior Center without Walls program telephone support group (The Eyes Have It)
dougdrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dougdrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
http://pages.suddenlink.net/dougdrose

From: 
visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 [mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Farrow, Kendra
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 2:47 PM
To: 
visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] Re: capacitive controls

Hi,

Thank you for sharing about these new types of appliance controls. There was a 
conference several years ago at a hotel that had these for the elevator 
buttons. When you tried to feel for the buttons you activated every button you 
touched. It was a tall building, so it was a real pain and I resorted to asking 
others to press the button for me. I find it frustrating to even think about 
having these types of controls on appliances. Has anyone found any other 
solution other than wearing a glove as described below?

Thanks,
Kendra


From: 
visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
<visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
 On Behalf Of Doug Rose
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:56 PM
To: MBrink-C@xxxxxxx<mailto:MBrink-C@xxxxxxx>; LeJeune, B.J. 
<bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>; 
visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] RE: [visionrehabtherapist] RE: AmazonBasics 
Microwave &#127871; now available

Hi, to follow up on Marcie’s message, she brings up a good point about modern 
appliance controls.
The older touch panels we use to mark with tactile markers, were called 
resistive touch controls.  You can actually feel around the panel and find the 
tactile mark and it takes pressure to activate the control.  This was doable.  
but be aware capacitive controls are now being used.  This means you no longer 
use pressure to activate the control.  Has anyone experienced this?
It means while feeling around the panel for the tactile mark you want you will 
be setting off each control you touch because they use capacitance from your 
finger.  No pressure is required.  Put a glove on your hand and touch the same 
panel and it will not activate the control.
I learned this from Anne DeWitte owner of Tangible Surface Research 
http://tangiblesurfaceresearch.com/
I use her home appliance labeling and overlay systems that Marcie mentioned.  
They are on my over the range microwave, but it uses the older resistive touch 
panel so you don’t have to wear a glove to use it, it takes pressure to 
activate each control.
I did find I had to use Rhino glue to glue on the bottom row of my tactile 
icons, because the heat from the range below the microwave would eventually 
melt the standard adhesive.
So on my new smart range I have to wear a glove on one hand, find the tactile 
mark for a control and take my bear finger from my other hand and activate the 
control.
Or I have to use my smart phone app to control the appliance.  The 
accessibility of the Smart phone app from Samsung definitely could be improved.

Perhaps you purchased the 1.9 cubic foot  Smart Over the Range Microwave with 
Scan-to  cook technology,  Whirlpool Model #: WMH78019HW

If this is the one, it does have control through an app on a smart phone.  It 
will require a Wi-Fi connection to make this all work.  Please send the list 
your findings.  It all sounds good through advertising but firsthand experience 
is the bottom line.
Be well.
Doug McKinleyville Low vision Support Group (The bumpers) (707) 839-0588
Senior Center without Walls program telephone support group (The Eyes Have It)
dougdrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dougdrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
http://pages.suddenlink.net/dougdrose

From: 
visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 [mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brink-Chaney, ;
Marcie A
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:18 AM
To: 'bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; 
visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] RE: AmazonBasics Microwave &#127871; now 
available

Hi B. J.

I was considering buying this microwave because I heard about it from Blind 
Bargains Buzz email.  I decided not to get it because I wanted a microwave that 
has convection cooking in it as well.  I just bought a whirlpool over the range 
smart microwave/convection oven.  It can be run using Bluetooth so I think that 
means using an IPhone or an Android phone.  I will have to mark it myself 
because the controls are a flat screen literally as a part of the door.  You 
can’t tell tactually that it isn’t just a door.

There is another oven from GE that works with the echo and it also has the 
capability for programming for cooking various foods using the bar code on the 
package.  It was also advertised on amazon.  You put the bar code in front of 
the microwave and it programs the microwave to use the directions on the bar 
code.

I heard about a marking system that I’m considering that uses dots and shapes 
to identify what an appliance does.  I’ll probably just use Brailled dymo tape 
to mark it.  I’ll let you know what I think of it once I use it for awhile.

Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT CATIS
Visually Impaired Services
University Health Center
Detroit Receiving Hospital
Detroit Medical Center
Address:  4201 St. Antoine
Detroit MI 48201
Phone:  (313)745-4131
Email:  mbrink-c@xxxxxxx<mailto:mbrink-c@xxxxxxx>
From: 
visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 [mailto:visionrehabtherapist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LeJeune, B.J.
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:59 AM
To: 
visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:visionrehabtherapist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [visionrehabtherapist] FW: AmazonBasics Microwave &#127871; now 
available

I thought this was interesting.  Has anyone tried the Amazon voice-controlled 
microwave using an Echo?  Below is a message about it.

BJ

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From: "Amazon.com<http://Amazon.com>" 
<store-news@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:store-news@xxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: November 19, 2018 at 1:07:59 PM CST
To: bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bjlejeune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: AmazonBasics Microwave &#127871; now available

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