[vip_students] Re: The Talks Manual
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:45:37 +0100
Tony and everyone
I have certainly worked very hard to come to terms with the mobile and Talks
and want to know everything immediately. This is because I have denied myself
all these years or been denied of this excellent function. Now I cannot wait
to know everything.
When I went to St Mary's at the age of 10, I could not really read print very
well and of course had no knowledge of Braille. I was the same with the
Braille learning as with the Talks now. Yet I found it very hard to transfer
from my reliable typewriter to a computer and even slower to move from
magnification to speech. Now I am dragging my heels moving from Supernova to
Jaws.
I must respectively say that we are all aware of Paul Traynor as Technical
Support for N C B I and Paul has taught me many things through his capacity as
Technical Support worker by telephone. Haven't I just, I can hear Paul sigh!!!
Then there is Stuart. Again an N C B I employee who is a very valued person
to all us visually impaired. I have observed how both these gentlemen even
involve themselves on the list in the evenings and at weekends which is a
fantastic support to all of us. Let me pay tribute to everyone on the list, it
is fantastic team work and we are all sharing and learning from each other. As
stated previously I had no idea how valuable joining the list would be. Paul
had mentioned it to me previously and I had not joined. Even when I said I
would join I was unsure what it would be like.
There is one person on the list who did invite me to communicate re Talks and
that person has given me knowledge I now have. I have actually given great
consideration to asking the person if we might put all this very valuable
information together so that everyone would benefit from it but it will not be
my work and I will not take any credit for any of it.
May I also point out that before I started flying my questions re mobile and
Talks all over the place, Stuart had got the ball rolling interestingly enough
with what he said he would like to call Mobile Corner and my first lesson from
him was back on Monday, the day I took possession of my mobile and related to
ensuring that in case of loss or theft we make a record of the IMEI or Serial
number. That was actually the first thing I did with my Talks mobile.
Let's just keep on sharing at present and then Tony I will ask the person who
has given me such valuable help to liaise with Stuart and see what both of them
can come up with.
It seems unfair that my Helper/Instructor should remain anonymous but I wish to
leave it like that at present because I am even unaware of the person's
commitments and if we all start bombarding then this can be counter productive
but fear not, Tony and everyone I am sure all the information can be got
together to help everyone.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Sweeney
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: The Talks Manual
Hi Eleanor,
I was just thinking (with of course the Moderator's blessing I'm sure that
when you become more proficient with the phone with Talks and what it will
achieve for you in terms of textting, transferring etcetera, etcetera, you
might be able to share all that with the list with a number of short tutorials,
and fielding questions from then say beginners and so on!
You certainly are learning fast, fast!
I feel you to be like the Heuston/Glasgow express ready to overtake any
second as I just keep chugging along
like the train in "are you right there Michael, are you right! ! [smile]
I will forward that post mentioned now if I can find it myself!!
Tony.----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:13 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: The Talks Manual
Thank you Tony. Manuals are great when you have time to sit down and read
them. At the moment I want to get the phone up and running because I am busy
studying and therefore under a little pressure for the next week but love
having the phone and it is tending to take over at the moment. I have all
these assignments to get in and I am coping with having lost my guide dog and
now am looking forward to starting training with a new one next month while
having to ensure I pass all my assignments and enjoy my new mobile. I am
tending to ask questions about what I really need at the moment. Everyone on
the list is great at helping and I thoroughly enjoy being a member. Keep it up
everybody.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Sweeney
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM
Subject: [vip_students] The Talks Manual
Hi Eleanor,
I think when you get a chance you really should consult the Talks manual!
It is full of great information and tips!
)if I say it's great, then it has to be)! [smile]
It is not that big really and I'd imagine you'd know a deal already!
Give us a shout to the list re any difficulties!
Tony.
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Talks and Transfering Sound Files from PC
Thank you very much Joan Ann I thought that but just wanted you to
confirm which folder. Now I am well on the way. What about re-dialling a
number, I am stuck on that one.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Joan Ann Brosnan
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Talks and Transfering Sound Files from PC
Hi Eleanor
I'm delighted that you succeeded in your task, sorry my way didn't
work for you. If you can remember how you transferred the ring tone, the same
principle applies for the pictures except that they go into the images folder.
Joan Ann.
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:34 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Talks and Transfering Sound Files from
PC
Joan Ann
first of all I am very stupid. Secondly thank you I have succeeded
in the task. Finally I regret to say not through the route you told me. I
followed you to the letter as you know and I could not find them. The
strangest thing ever is that when I tried again I could not reproduce your
route. My phone said Data Transfer On so I selected that. It then went on
about something in Memory that could not be stored so I accepted that too.
Then I found some folders and one of them was Digital. I went in to that and
identified some current ring tones and pasted mine in. The first time I tried
and pulled out the plug so to speak, I got a warning that my data had not been
saved as I did not do this correctly. I was disgusted. Then I am a great one
for perseverance so had to go through the wretched thing again. Worse still I
had turned off the computer. I thought next time I will reproduce your route
but again this did not happen. I went in to digital folder in any case and
pasted by files. When I looked for them in Profile I just could not believe
it, there they were and what's more to prove it to myself I was able to change
the ring tone to the one of my choice, Soldier's Song. Then I tested it and it
was simply brilliant. Sorry Joe Ann that I was unable to reproduce your route
but I managed anyway. You gave me the confidence to give it a go. I am so
delighted with this Talks and the phone. Up to this I've had a mobile for
about 7 years and all I could do was make a call. Now I am doing so much with
this one in a few days. I need to get on to learning how to text now and I am
then well away. I will do that next week as I have study I need to get back to
instead of playing with my new phone but once my assignment goes in and while I
am waiting to start training with my new dog, I will consolidate the text
messaging.
Thank you once again. If you know how I transfer pictures too I
would appreciate learning that Joe Ann. I would want to transfer them in both
directions. It would be easy to work out once I know how to transfer to the
phone then I would do the same in reverse so to speak.
Now I want to know how do I stop the phone telling me the date each
time I unlock the keypad?
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Joan Ann Brosnan
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:21 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Talks and Transfering Sound Files
from PC
Hi Eleanor
My digital folder was empty too until I put ring tones into it
and, now, when I go to profiles and go to select a tone to use, they show up
for me.
They should show up as the names they were originally called on
your computer.
What kind of files are they?
Joan Ann.
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:56 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Talks and Transfering Sound Files
from PC
Joan Ann I followed exactly what you told me to do but I cannot
find my ring tone and message alert on profiles. Maybe I am not looking in the
right place. I definitely copied my files to the Digital folder but I was a
little worried at the time as there did not seem to be anything else in that
folder. Should I have identified them by name or what?
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Joan Ann Brosnan
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:42 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Talks and Transfering Sound Files
from PC
Hi Eleanor
This may sound a little complicated but, I will try my best
to explain this procedure to you.
I am using the e51 with talks but, I'm pretty sure the
procedure for the n95 is similar.
Firstly, you need to install a program called Nokia PC suite
on to your computer. The version I am using is 6.82.22.0. There is a later
version available but, I find this version quite accessible with jaws. The
installation is straight forward.
The next step is to attach your phone to the computer using
the USB cable. PC suite will start installing the driver for your phone. This
could take up to 5 minutes so, it is best to just let the computer work away on
its own.
When this has finished, you should launch PC suite from the
desktop.
Now, as I am using jaws, I press insert and page down and it
tells me that "nokia e51 connected via USB". I think this message is located
towards the bottom of the screen.
Now, given that you are successful in connecting your phone,
you do the following:
1. Find the ring tone and message alert that you want to use
and copy them to the clipboard.
2. Go to windows explorer and under the list of drives, you
should see one that says nokia n95 and select this.
3. Here, I get a list of 2 folders, phone memory and memory
card.
4. Choose phone memory.
5. You now have a folder called Data so select this.
6. In this list of folders, there is one called sounds so,
select this.
7. In this folder, choose "digital". We will paste the
files into this folder. You can now disconnect the phone.
Now when you go to profiles on your phone, the ring tone and
message alert should be available for you to use.
I'm sorry this is so long and I really hope it makes sense.
Feel free to ask questions.
Joan Ann.
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Talks and Transfering Sound Files
from PC
Hi All
Does anyone know how I can transfer two files (ring tone
and message alert) from my PC to Mobile. I will do this using a USB cable and
have installed the necessary mobile phone software on to my PC so am all ready
to go if someone can write out for me the various stages. Once I have the
music in a folder I then want to know how to put it in the ring tones folder,
likewise with the message alert. Now let's face it folks, I don't ask for
much!!!!!!!!! My phone is N95 but I guess it is the principal of the thing.
Brian has told me he has not transferred like this though I am aware he has a
N95. Actually maybe one does not even need the software when transferring
files though now I am probably being stupid. I hear sighted people talking
about dragging and dropping which is the same as cutting and pasting so we must
be able to do this with Talks.
Eleanor
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