Tx Robbie We have regular form spam from one of our websites. What I see is pretty much random content appart from a "valid" email, ie name at domain dot com and the comments that include the rubish text. Captchas are random images, with the Jaws issue. You cannot use an alt tag otherwise the bot would take it. The suggestion is to actually use plain text, so it would work with Jaws, but would be more difficult for the bot to compute. The questions may not be a calculation. Claude -----Original Message----- From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandberg, Robert Sent: 26 June 2008 11:22 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: research on audio CAPTCHA Hi! I thought that the letters in these graphics were not actual characters, but rather images, so they can't be picked up by automated programs. If you display something like 3 + 2, would not such a program be able to recognise the numbers and perform the calculation? Cheers, Robbie -----Original Message----- From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claude Saulnier Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:12 AM To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: research on audio CAPTCHA Hi On the Captcha matter, we are doing some research ourselves. In order to avoid captcha and the audio, and the complexity and so on, we were thinking of using a question such as what is 2 + 3 and you then need to enter the result to validate the form. I have seen it used and I like the simplicity of it. Have you seen this type of stuff and if so, what is your opinion? Tx Claude Saulnier www.wandsoft.com