thanks ciaran Ferry for explanation about delay with gmail.A few weeks ago Iattended a one day course on e mail in dalkey library,the instructor showed me how to send mail ,so I addressed one to myself and it showed up on my screen in about four minutes. Since changing to gmail a small window showing my e mail address and password in dots arrives but as soon as I press cancel or ok it works fine.Maybe I did not register correctly.anyway Ciaran this is not very important I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. lIKE WITH INTERNET EXPLORER 8 A PAGE KEEPS COMING UP SAYING WELCOME TO INTERNET EXPLORER ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR HELP. I just notice I have used capital letters ,but I will leave it as retyping with one finger takes too long best wishes frank