Hi,
I’m not sure I agree with this assessment.
I suggest that nobody here will use Citrix except in a professional setting. A
large employer can make a reasonable accommodation to provide JAWS and a small
employer can apply for a grant. JAWS is, in effect, free to the employee and
his/her line manager.
The CEO of a very respected organisation called “Level Access” (formerly the
Bart Group) has commented on access to Citrix and pointed out some
shortcomings when using NVDA. It also adds a very large level of complication
when a third party product is required if using NVDA whereas JAWS provides
direct access.
Furthermore, JAWS provides superior access, in my opinion, to the generality of
everyday software. It also costs considerably less than UER300 for 2 years
which I remember working out as around 30 cent per day.
I have no doubt that NVDA is good and is improving, but I question if it can
provide a superior experience to the professional users mentioned. I am basing
this not only on access to Citrix, but the every day use of all software tools.
Hopefully it will continue to improve and will eventually give top class access
for free.
Take care,
Gerry Ellis
If you don’t know where you’re going,
How will you know when you get there?
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday 24 September 2020 21:59
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] FW: Citrix accessibility products and UnicornDVC
Hi all,
For your information,
I have found what I believe to be an excellent solution to the need to make
Citrix available to Non-Visual use.
I note that there are three screen readers that are compatible with the Citrix
based virtual desktop system. However, Dolphin is very little used in Ireland
any more and lacks peer support. The real choices are now between JAWS (Job
Access With Speech) and NVDA (Non-Visual Desktop Access) which are very
actively used in Ireland and have a wide range of peer supports locally.
JAWS costs over €1,000 per licence and NVDA is free.
I strongly recommend that NVDA be used for this facility not just because it is
free, but because it is object oriented, unlike JAWS and well supported by a
very active team of developers world-wide.
In order to function within Citrix, NVDA needs software called UnicornDVC,
developed by Babbage ltd. On behalf of an organisation called Acces4U which is
the owner of the licence. It allows the creation of communication channels in
remote desktop connections and currently supports Microsoft’s Remote Desktop
Protocol (RDP), Citrix and VMware Horizon. The installation and UnicornDVC
module are available from Babbage limited. I have spoken to their CEO and I am
assured that they have a broad range of experience of all three screen readers
and their installation in Citrix networks. I welcome the fact that they have
installed and continue to support many installations in Public Authority
locations internationally.
I am attaching a file in which Babbege show two tables. The first explains the
kind of services needed to support different stages of visual loss and the
relevant network supports that are available.
The second table displays the performance rating of the three options. The term
"USA" refers to the complete package of screen magnifier combined with NVDA and
UnicornDVC.
For more details and pricing see :
<https://access4u.eu/product/unicorndvc/#genesis-nav-primary>
https://access4u.eu/product/unicorndvc/#genesis-nav-primary
The following link provides a full discussion of the various ways in which NVDA
can be installed into the Citrix farm which might help as a briefing before
consulting Babbege.
<https://access4u.eu/unicornNVDA/> https://access4u.eu/unicornNVDA/ ;
Forwarded Message from: Babbage
Subject: accessibility products and Unicorn
As promised: Comparison sheet for the different accessibility software in the
attachment. Note that the performance of the Citrix farm is influenced by the
resources needed for the assistive software.
To our customers we are very transparent about functionality and performance.
(to be honest; it doesn’t matter what we supply as long as we solve the
problem). Our customers are for life an most of them appreciate our transparent
choice of products.
The Unicorn product is developed by Babbage for the company: Access4u. For
details see https://access4u.eu/downloads/
Babbage operates mainly in the Netherlands and Belgium and has at least one
client in Ireland. Access4u delivers licenses worldwide.
You can find demo software and documentation on
https://access4u.eu/downloads/
Please forward this mail to your engineers. I’m happy to answer all their
technical questions.
Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards
Mario de Nijs
Babbage
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Skype: <callto:mario.de.nijs> mario.de.nijs
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Website: <http://www.babbage.com/> www.babbage.com
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Bezoekadres:
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KVK: 20065000
End of forwarded message.
All the best,
Cearbhall
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