Great! You're a genius! Eventually moving it to my knee and then foot makes all kinds of sense to me. I knew I wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. Grin K2+ -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:39 PM To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: (VICT) Re: Reinventing the wheel =20 =20 In a message dated 10/15/2007 6:12:59 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, =20 khevener@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: First, reward her for targeting your hand. Then=20 up the criteria so that you are holding the toy, but that she doesn't get=20 rewarded till she touches the toy.=20 Another idea might be to have her touch your hand until she is good at it=20 and then to touch the toy until she is good at it . Then hold one toy in hand=20 and alternate touching your hand and touching the toy..until she understands=20 what toy is.. then put it in your lap, then on your foot and then farther=20 away.. maybe temporarily attach a jingle bell when you are no longer touching=20 it. Fast idea off the top of my head.. =20 Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.-=20 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com