Hi, Jackie, Not exactly. You want to set things up so that she will understand what she needs to do to earn the click and treat, and so that she will be successful. We don't assume that the dog "knows" that mugging your hand is an undesirable behavior. We just want to show her that it doesn't work, that it is not within the rules of the clicker game. Then we want to show her ways in which she can achieve her goal of causing you to click and give her one of those yummy treats. So, once you have done the first exercise of simply clicking and treating, (Sandy's Lesson 1, Part A), and she knows that the sound of the clicker means yummy things are coming, you want to move on to the next exercise, (Lesson 1, Part B), where she will learn that mugging does not get her any treats, and then on to the next exercise, (Lesson 1, Part C), where she will learn that there are behaviors that she can do that will "make the vending machine deliver a treat". At this early stage in Cola's clicker training, we want to keep the game very positive and friendly. (Actually, this is true throughout our training, at all levels and stages.) If she makes a mistake and mugs for the treats, because that behavior has worked in the past, or just because that is a natural behavior for a dog to do and it is what she thought of at the moment, we do not want to punish her by removing the thing that she likes. Instead, we want to ignore the unwanted behavior and wait until she stops pawing momentarily or looks away for an instant, and then immediately click and treat that desirable behavior. Soon she will get the point that keeping her paws down and looking away from the treats actually is the key to unlock the vending machine. A light bulb will switch on in her little Labbie head, and you will have a truly clicker aware dog who just can't wait for you to teach her more ways that she can cause you to click and give her a treat! Keep up the good work! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Rumble" <jackie.rumble@xxxxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:14 AM Subject: (VICT) Re: How do I get started with clicker training? > Oh OK > So if she barks or paws then the game is done? > > > > Jackie and Cola > Want to see what we are up to: > check out our live journal at: > http://jackie_rumble.livejournal.com > join dogs-with-jobs at: > dogs-with-jobs-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Join Technical-support at: > technical-support-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Edie > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:19 AM > To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: (VICT) Re: How do I get started with clicker training? > > Hi, Jackie, > > Welcome to the group. I was going to send you Sandy's clicker lessons, > but > I see that Sandy has already posted them for you. If you follow Sandy's > procedure for introducing the clicker, using several short sessions with > 20 > treats each session in different places, I'm sure your dog will catch on > to > the fact that every time she hears the sound of the clicker, a treat > follows. > > You don't really want the dog sniffing your hands to try to get the treats > or make them appear quicker. So that is why we have to take the next step > of showing the dog that the treat appears *only* after the click, and the > click happens when the dog has done something that you like or that you > have > asked for. It is important to establish the ground rules of the game at > the > beginning, so that the dog doesn't think it can get treats by begging, > mugging your pockets, or sniffing at your hands. Once the dog has caught > on > to the idea that she can cause the click to happen by doing things that > you > like, then you will have a dog which is actively thinking about what you > want her to do, and a dog which is happy because she knows how to earn the > click and the reward that follows. > > Have fun, and let us know how it goes. > > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Rumble" <jackie.rumble@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:15 PM > Subject: (VICT) How do I get started with clicker training? > > >> Hi All, >> I have a female black lab and she is two and a half. >> She knows how to sit and all that good stuff, but how do I introduce her >> to >> the clicker and teach her that the click means reward? >> I am a totally blind person, so any tips would be appreciated. >> >> >> Jackie and Cola >> Want to see what we are up to: >> check out our live journal at: >> http://jackie_rumble.livejournal.com >> <http://jackie_rumble.livejournal.com/> >> join dogs-with-jobs at: >> dogs-with-jobs-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Join Technical-support at: >> technical-support-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> > > >