Hey no offense karen, Smile, after all I wouldn't in any right mind, smile, partner with a BC. Smile. You are right, my new golden girl is 22 in at the shoulder, much shorter than Met. Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. - Helen Keller ----- Original Message ----- From: "metnme2" <metnme2@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Vi-Clicker" <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: (VICT) Re: As One Era Ends, Another to Begin... Thanks for asking the things you did and your insights. Firstly today is a horrible day- its like now that the obstacle of permission to train here is out of the way, it feels so wrong to my heart. Like that was a safeguard keeping me from moving on. Its bizarre and I don't understand it myself but isn't that the nature of grief? I also have been given the wide awakening of how my community drove more safely, stopped more courteously for Met and I as a team than they do for me...gee I wonder if he gave people the BC stare or something! LOL For a short time I was planning on changing breeds. I had my mom all set for a golden which they love but as I read about various dogs in shelters it was like, *yeah OK* when I read about goldens (sorry Shelley and other golden handlers here)or other breeds, but I smiled when I read about BC mixes. My heart has not done a flip flop yet which is what I will use as the go-ahead to look at a certain dog though there is a lovely BC crossed with lab that sounds more BC in some ways and lab in others... doesn't sound like it has that reserved side towards people that is part of the BC but definitely needs a job like BCs do. Mom said his picture showed him to look more BC than lab but she could see some lab in him- a bit fuller form than a BCs chest etc. But... The Shepherds owners actually found him... not great people from what I understood and he definitely did not want to go home. He liked the home he had for 4 days with a neighbor here. I don't want a pure Shepherd though. If I stumbled across the perfect BC mix and it happened to be crossed with shepherd- then great but not a pure one LOL I also know Met was a tall guy for even a BC mix standing at 24 inches tall- taller than a number of goldens even. It was a great height for us and I know realistically that my dog will probably be shorter irregardless of its mix. I am not thrilled by that one...did I mention how great a height Met was for me LOL A lot of shelters and rescues do frown upon these dogs being trained as service dogs. Been there before done that. Went Elsewhere... Someone I have known for years who has the *BC in her heart* mentality also told me to also look into private postings of BC mixes. Oft' times she said (she used to do rescue) people will take in a BC mix not realizing that even though its a mix these dogs really need a job.... then they are trying to find it a new home in the 6 month to 2 year age. Its worth a shot to feel that possibility out too but I don't want to get another handful of medical ordeals from the get go either since these dogs would not have been medically cleared like rescues and shelters do- though met was medically cleared and he was not medically sound from the get go (hindsite knowledge). Don't get me wrong, I would probably stick it out just like I did with Met, but my pocketbook deserves a break after all these years of expense I dealt with caring for my most wonderful sidekick. But yeah... its probably gonna be a BC of some sorts. I don't want to switch breeds for someone else, for ease of training, or anything like that. I am going to be with this dog hopefully for at least as long as I was with Met and I want to love our partnership one day and not have regrets. I know people who left their breed of choice to try and minimize the hurt and they could never really get into the partnership until they chose to start over with their breed. I don't want to have regrets so unless it becomes impossible to find a good candidate or someone willing to give me a chance with a BC... it will be another BC mix. I do have history on my side where many strong advocates of reference exist about what we were like, the extent to which i would go... Thats where my mind stands right now- now we need to get my heart there...hmmmm Karyn -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.25/1018 - Release Date: 9/19/2007 3:59 PM