[va-bird] Re: Posting problems

  • From: Paula Sullivan <paula.sullivan2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: VA-Bird <va-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:21:49 -0400

VA-Birders,

Curious about other state's birding lists, I did a little research on Birdingonthe.net to learn about their sponsorship and servers. I picked 15 states at random. Here's what I found:

Two states (California and Alabama) use Yahoo Groups which is free, but includes some advertising.

Seven states use Listserv email list manager, a product of L-Soft. Some of these states have some sponsorship by or affiliation with universities or audubon.org. These universities and Audubon probably own the list management software and require the birding list to share in the cost. Maryland apparently doesn't have an affilitation, but uses L-Soft EASE, a hosting service, and it shares the server with other lists. Listserv does cost bucks, depending on many factors, and it looks to me like it could be a few hundred to a couple thousand, unless Virginia-Birds had some sponsorship.

Colorado uses Lyris, and other states seem to use an unidentified server of the flagship university in their state.

Fourteen out of 15 states' search engines were a pleasure to use. You could narrow the search in various ways and find a report from a particular date range quickly and easily. The only exception to this was Ohio. To search its archives you had to search each month of each year separately. Ugh. I didn't find any states that use FreeLists, but there may be some.

If Virginia birders want to be able to post messages and search its archives reliably and efficiently, I think a change is needed. I subscribe to one Yahoo Group. It works just fine and the archives are easy to use. It does come with some advertising. If that is not acceptable, then I think we should investigate ways of finding funds and/or a university affiliation. I do encourage members of birding organizations around the state to include this issue as an agenda item at their next meeting and use this list to let the state-wide birding community know how its membership feels about a change.

Paula Sullivan
Alexandria
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