[uupretirees] Re: Atmosphere cooling may be needed to combat climate change, report says

  • From: Eric Russell <ericprussell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 15:58:25 +0000

Here's more on the subject.  Eric

Should We Block the Sun? Scientists Say the Time Has Come to Study It.

The National Academies said the United States must study technologies that 
would artificially cool the planet by reflecting away some sunlight, citing the 
lack of progress fighting global warming.

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[Mount Sinabung in Karo, Indonesia, erupting earlier this month. Solar 
geoengineering technology can involve the dispersal of aerosols in the air 
similar to those from volcanic eruptions.]
Mount Sinabung in Karo, Indonesia, erupting earlier this month. Solar 
geoengineering technology can involve the dispersal of aerosols in the air 
similar to those from volcanic eruptions.Credit...Associated Press
[Christopher Flavelle]<https://www.nytimes.com/by/christopher-flavelle>

By Christopher Flavelle<https://www.nytimes.com/by/christopher-flavelle>

Published March 25, 2021Updated March 28, 2021

WASHINGTON — The idea of artificially cooling the planet to blunt climate 
change — in effect, blocking sunlight before it can warm the atmosphere — got a 
boost on Thursday when an influential scientific body urged the United States 
government to spend at least $100 million to research the technology.

That technology, often called solar geoengineering, entails reflecting more of 
the sun’s energy back into space through techniques that include injecting 
aerosols into the atmosphere. In a new 
report<https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25762/reflecting-sunlight-recommendations-for-solar-geoengineering-research-and-research-governance>,
 the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine said that 
governments urgently need to know whether solar geoengineering could work and 
what the side effects might be.

“Solar geoengineering is not a substitute for decarbonizing,” said Chris Field, 
director of the Woods Institute for the Environment at Stanford University and 
head of the committee that produced the report, referring to the need to emit 
less carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Still, he 
said, technology to reflect sunlight “deserves substantial funding, and it 
should be researched as rapidly and effectively as possible.”

The report acknowledged the risks that have made geoengineering one of the most 
contentious issues in climate policy. Those risks include upsetting regional 
weather patterns in potentially devastating ways, for example by changing the 
behavior of the monsoon in South Asia; relaxing public pressure to reduce 
greenhouse gas emissions; and even creating an “unacceptable risk of 
catastrophically rapid warming” if governments started reflecting sunlight for 
a period of time, and then later stopped.

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But the authors argue that greenhouse gas emissions are not falling quickly 
enough to avoid dangerous levels of global warming, which means the world must 
begin to examine other options. Evidence for or against solar geoengineering, 
they found, “could have profound value” in guiding decisions about whether to 
deploy it.

That includes evidence about what the authors called the social risks: For 
example, if research showed that the side effects would be concentrated in 
poorer nations, Dr. Field said, it could be grounds not to pursue the 
technology, even if it benefited the world as a whole.

The report also argued that by publicly funding geoengineering research, the 
United States could ensure that the work is transparent and accountable to the 
public, with clear rules about when and how to test the technology.

Some critics said those safeguards weren’t enough.

The steps urged in the report to protect the interests of poorer countries — 
for example, accounting for farmers in South Asia whose lives could be upended 
by changes in rain patterns — could fall away once the research begins, 
according to Prakash Kashwan, a professor of political science at the 
University of Connecticut.

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“Once these kinds of projects get into the political process, the scientists 
who are adding all of these qualifiers, and all of these cautionary notes, 
aren’t in control,” Dr. Kashwan said.

Jennie Stephens, director of the School of Public Policy and Urban Affairs at 
Northeastern University, said that geoengineering research takes money and 
attention from the core problem, which is cutting emissions and helping 
vulnerable communities cope with the climate disruptions that are already 
happening.

“We need to double down on bigger transformative changes,” Dr. Stephens said. 
“That’s where the investment needs to be.”

Solar geoengineering has bipartisan support in Congress, which in late 2019 
gave the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration $4 million to research 
the 
technology<https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/28/climate/climate-change-geoengineering.html>.

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 which are getting worse.

“America needs to be on the cutting edge of climate research,” Representative 
John Curtis, Republican of Utah, said in a statement. “More knowledge is always 
better.”

The calculation could be more difficult for President Biden, who has tried to 
gain the support of the party’s progressive wing, some of whom are skeptical 
about geoengineering. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont has called it a “false 
solution<https://berniesanders.com/issues/green-new-deal/>,” grouping it with 
nuclear power or capturing carbon dioxide and burying it underground.

Asked for comment on the report, a White House spokesman, Vedant Patel, said by 
email that President Biden “has been clear about addressing the climate 
crisis.” He added, “innovative solutions that can help accomplish this should 
be looked into and studied.”

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Tylar Greene, a spokeswoman for NASA, which helped fund the report, said in a 
statement that “we look forward to reviewing the report, examining 
recommendations, and exploring how NASA and its research community can support 
this effort.”

Ko Barrett, deputy assistant administrator at NOAA, which also helped fund the 
report, said in a statement that the agency looked forward to “carefully 
reviewing” it. The Department of Energy, another funder, didn’t respond to a 
request for comment.

The endorsement by the National Academies might make some lawmakers feel more 
comfortable supporting the technology, according to Michael Gerrard, director 
of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law at the Columbia Law School and 
editor of a 
book<https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/climate-engineering-and-the-law/CC93F3228AE1FBB028ED18C6DE6E19B8>
 on solar geoengineering.

And rather than causing people to care less about curbing greenhouse gas 
emissions, he said, a large new federal research program into geoengineering 
might have the opposite effect: Jolting the public into taking climate change 
seriously by demonstrating that more extreme and dangerous options may soon be 
necessary.

“It could be so scary that people will be even more motivated to reduce 
emissions,” Mr. Gerrard said.

Correction: March 25, 2021

An earlier version of this article mistakenly substituted the word “qualities” 
for “qualifiers” in a quote from Prakash Kashwan, a professor of political 
science at the University of Connecticut.

Christopher Flavelle focuses on how people, governments and industries try to 
cope with the effects of global warming. He received a 2018 National Press 
Foundation award for coverage of the federal government's struggles to deal 
with flooding. @cflav<https://twitter.com/cflav>


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change, report says

Very interesting.  The idea of iron filings in the air, supersized reflectors, 
etc. are being recycled as a research project. These ideas were pooh poohed 30 
or 40 years ago.  With the accelerating loss of albedo as the ice caps melt, 
some of these "radical" ideas need to be revisited.  Aluminum and silver cannot 
be used because their oxidation products will further poison both the 
atmosphere and the oceans, aluminum, especially, will cause heavy metal 
poisoning and silver is used as a poison or disinfectant, especially in medical 
and agricultural work.  Eric

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Subject: [uupretirees] Atmosphere cooling may be needed to combat climate 
change, report says



I thought you'd be interested in this story from the New York Post.

Atmosphere cooling may be needed to combat climate change, report says
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