I like Umpqua Basin Naturalists and it is a good idea to have at least two
admins for a group. :D
Barbara Anderson
From: Matthew G Hunter <matthewghunter@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Stacy Burleigh <stacymb13@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ub Birds <umpquabirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 3:02 PM
Subject: [Umpqua Birds] Re: Facebook Group Thread
Hi Folks. Great to see the interest/enthusiasm. I'm just going to *suggest*
some things, as I will not be the one doing this. Do as you wish.
1. A couple emails sent directly to me also agree with the public sentiment
that it would be good for the Facebook group to be "closed," which just means
that you have to ASK to be part of the group. Only those in the group can see
what you are sharing/posting.
2. A couple emails sent directly to me also agree with the public sentiment to
have the Facebook group be broader than birds, including other living things. I
might add occasionally even "non-living" things, as the naturalist takes it all
into account and these are often habitat for living things (e.g., rocks, soil,
logs, dead trees, stream/bed).
3. As for a name for the Facebook group, I like Umpqua Basin Naturalists. Note
that there is a subtle but important difference between naming a group in terms
of its members or in terms of the topic that one expects to be sharing (e.g.
Umpqua Birds or Umpqua Birders). And this can in some way affect how one thinks
about the geographic scope and topics. (See next). I think something like SW OR
Naturalists would be too broad, and I can't think of a good way to include the
Coquille/Coos area, which is where the Paulson's often go. Regardless of the
group name, everyone needs to know that YES we like to hear about your
excursions!!! and see photos! :-)
4. Regarding the geographic "boundaries" it helps, I think, to have some sort
of guidelines. For the Umpqua Birds email list, I've defined it as Douglas
County or the Umpqua Basin (similar but different). However, if you read the
full guidelines/instructions (http://umpquabirds.org/ emaillist.htm), which not
many people do, it is also expected for residents of our area to post about
excursions outside this area. This is because a group like this is also a form
of community, so its members matter, not just the location of their
observations.
5. We apparently have two highly qualified Facebook administrators who have
volunteered to set this up and administer, both with last three letters in
their name being "nya," which must mean something special. My suggestion is
that these two converse with each other about options, preferences, etc. to see
how they do this. I don't know if one should take it and the other relax, or if
it works to have co-admins, etc.... Please work this out and let us know!
6. It seems that most of the "change" has flowed toward creating a Facebook
naturalist group, versus doing anything different with the Umpqua Birds email
list. So, unless someone or a critical mass wants to suggest some changes, I
will just let it continue on as is. Realize that for everyone, including those
that do not join the Facebook group, if you are part of our Douglas County or
Umpqua Basin community, you CAN occasionally post about excursions out of this
area, and you CAN occasionally post about other natural history
observations/thoughts. These are a secondary purpose of the list, but are
completely acceptable. If we as a community want to make these things more of a
primary (regular) purpose, a name and guidance change should be considered. I
am always and completely open to these possibilities.
I'm glad to see what's happening!
Matt Hunter
Contributor to ebird.org and inaturalist.org
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Stacy Burleigh <stacymb13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It looks like everyone is in agreement that it is smart to go with a closed
group and the desire is there for it to encompass not just birds. We should
brainstorm names. Elva brought up that she thought it would be nice if it is
not restricted to Douglas County lines. How do others feel about that? Would
that affect the name or could that be defined more in a description/statement
for the group?Here is the original name Matt came up with, any other
ideas?Umpqua Birders and Naturalists.
StacyMelrose
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Barbara Anderson <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I agree on the closed group setting.
Barbara AndersonDixonville area
From: Tonya Buzzard <crittermom88@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ashortridge@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Umpquabirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: [Umpqua Birds] Re: Facebook Group Thread
I was thinking a closed group so people could share.their pictures and there
would be less stealing of them by anyone/everyone.who may see them if the group
was public. (From personal experience). I like making it more naturalist, but
could go either way.