Here is the answer to my post about Spider. funny thing, the box I was getting that ( this isn't a valid zip file) every time I clicked ok it put another bar on the progress thingie. The same message kept popping up. Each time I clicked Ok again it put another bar, until it was filled up. Then I was able to see my backups Juanita Do you mean this program http://www.fsm.nl/ward/ its defiantly a good program. I have it , haven't used it lately, and don't know why it would have anything to do with SpyBots recovery nor email. thats not what its for,, it can cleanup the hidden index.dat files But we can do this also with SpyBot.. since your having problems with the recovery ,try this open SpyBot in advanced mode then to the tools, find the secure shredder panel/window minimize SpyBot for now. open a folder/explorer window by right clicking on it, choose explore, navigate to depending on your OS the recovery folder(SpyBots) For Windows 95/98, the file is located in C:\Windows\Application Data\Spybot - Search & Destroy\. For Windows ME, the file is located in C:\Windows\All Users\Application Data\Spybot - Search & Destroy\. For Windows NT/2000/XP, you will find it in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Spybot - Search & Destroy\. open it recovery folder) and drag the content to the secure shredder. we can do the same thing with the contents of TIF (temporary Internet files). I usually do it(clear the cache) daily with IE options and once a month or so delete the index dat with secure shredder.,and chop away This is for windows 9x and ME > so with explorer navigate to the TIF > you should see a Content.IE5 folder, either drag it to secure shredder or open and drag the index dat there. anyway you need to right click choose explorer in order to see contentIE5 normally we cant see it.. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 11/27/03