[tor] Re: Softlayer finally kicks us from their data center
- From: Moritz Bartl <moritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: torservers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:23:27 +0100
Hi grarpamp,
Thanks. Yes, that was the idea from the start, but for that we need some
bigger partners. The current deal is too good to not also try it in
their UK data center, and, hey, it worked for nearly seven months :)
>Also you should look at where the PirateBays, WikiLeaks,
>Torrent/Warez, free/hate speech, drug, RapidShare's, etc
>sites are hosted and the pipes behind them.
Most of them host where you can get decent offers, but not for bandwidth
as high as we need it. Feel free to hunt down possible ISPs and add them
to our wiki. [1]
Moritz
[1] http://www.wiredwings.com/wiki/Torservers.net_Main_Page#Hosters
On 06.12.2010 07:07, grarpamp wrote:
>> Bad news: We have received another DMCA complaint yesterday, and today
>> Softlayer told our ISP Midphase that they want our server removed from
>
> Another note for long term planning...
> It may be worthwhile to shop for a circuit from a Tier-1/2
> network entity. Such circuits are provisioned from NAP's
> where they have presence. You then need to rent only a
> rack.
> Benefit: No longer have colo/server companies as
> middlemen. The pipe is entirely yours, you're renting
> strictly real estate as real estate in a neutral facility.
> Drawback: The Tier-1/2's still have AUP's to research.
> Cost, mostly because there's nobody but you paying
> the missing oversubscription.
> Bonus: By then you pretty much need to be, and should be,
> your own colo/server compan[y/ies] as well, partly to get
> back some oversubscription. Also, in the corporate
> "structuring" to skin the cat :)
> Hello, yes, I'd like to report copyr... ticket, unable to process. Next hop...
> Hello, yes, I'd like to report copyr... ticket, unable to process. Next hop...
> Hello, yes, I'd like to report copyr... ticket, unable to process. Next hop...
> Hello, yes, I'm giving up.
>
> Example: Cogent used to sell 100Mb dedicated for $1000/mo. I've seen
> them at $7-$6/Mb recently for 100Mb-1Gb, full term. One could find any
> list of Tier-1's and check them.
>
> Also you should look at where the PirateBays, WikiLeaks,
> Torrent/Warez, free/hate speech, drug, RapidShare's, etc
> sites are hosted and the pipes behind them.
>
> Unfortunately, short of laying fiber and becoming a Tier-1,
> life may wind up being a series of hops. Even if you were
> a Tier-1, the others could just gang up and de-peer you.
> I'm still hoping for a worldwide net of conjoined community
> nets that are simply too big a profit userbase to de-peer
> from the commercial net.
>
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